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#1 rutuliukas

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:23 PM

So hey all :)
well for the first lets see how to blow ppls when you pk:


In pk to blow your oponent use rc mine + rc deto, means you put rc mines and detonators to quick slots in your inventory (the ones which you can use with ctrl+ number)and while fighting use them fast (lets say rc mine on ctrl+1 and rc deto on ctrl+2 so you hit ctrl+1 ctrl+2 ctrl+1 ctrl+2 fast as you can...)
the hard part of this if you are in pk map you will get damage of mines by yourself too... so before using that make sure you have more hp and you can survive thous mines which you will blow... dont forget you can get hit by sword in that time too, so for beeing save count the dmgs well...

How to count dmg? verry easy... use #arm check what armors you have (lets say you see msg like: Armor: 9/12 that means you will get -9 dmg from base of mine dmg)
How to count what dmg you deal with rc mine? even more easy :D 75 is base dmg +1 dmg per 5 lvls (lets say you have enginering lvl 28 so you will deal 75+(28/5) what ends at 80 dmg (with the armor 9/12 you will get 80-9=71 dmg per mine yourself if you use it in pk). knowing this sh** you already can manage how much mines you can use before you die yourself... (reminder dont forget you may get hitted by sword while you use them)

Using el-cel.com under equipment is verry good way to manage what damage will get your oponent too :P you add hes armors and you can see what #arm he will have, so then you can count at what oponent hp you must start bombing.

A lil tip for bombing, if you are in multi cmb map, you can drop summon so your oponent will turn to hit him (bear 130hp means at least 2 hits) and you will have time to use mines fast before he turns back to you and deal dmg.

How to avoid mines while you fighting? for this lets see deeper to mine damage. if you use mine yourself you get dmg which we looked throw before (mines base + eng lvl /5 - armor), but... if you or your oponent dont stand in cros sides (mean north west south or east) ther person who will use mine will get full dmg, and the person who will not use it will get a verry low dmg... why? i beleave its because of if you stand in the nw, sw, ne, se you stand a "not close" to your oponent, and mine damage decrease if you are away from the place it was used (hope it was clear sorry again for my language...)
Another way is wear better armors than a person who will try to bomb you and hold same hp as he, be ready all the time to use GHP or restore.... usualy the guy who plan to start mining will restore, so try to restore at same time.

so in short, to avoid be mined dont stand in North East South or West and keep your hp hight...

thats not a whole info, maybe later i will give away more, or maybe someone else will :) hope some of you will enjoy this info. HF and gl in new pk world :P


edit: oh right forgot: mines dont work in DPa 40 and DPa 60 (not sure about other caped arenas, and for sure it work in naralik)

Edited by rutuliukas, 05 April 2012 - 03:24 PM.


#2 villek

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

GJ :icon13: ty :mace: :mace:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 03:35 PM

ty for very usefful info newhope , no wonder why you failed to bomb me last 4 of 5 times(2x naralik arena,1x nca,1 tahraji desert). Guys follow his tips, ty

here is example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DowNHm_8k1o&feature=youtu.be

Edited by Alchemic, 05 April 2012 - 04:07 PM.


#4 Devnul

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 01:12 PM

Thank you for the tips NH, the avoiding part especially. +1

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 03:26 PM

I feel like im the only one thinking "RIP competitive PK". There is no reasonable defence against this item. Needs 2sec cooldown on the detonator IMO.

EDIT: reminded me of this video



Speaking for both vids in the thread: twice, someone is instantly dead from 150+, and other is 230+ hp to zero faster than I can blink(litterally)

Edited by Sonic, 06 April 2012 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

Yeah probably the most ridiculous pair of items in modern EL

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Posted 07 April 2012 - 02:24 PM

(lets say rc mine on ctrl+1 and rc deto on ctrl+2 so you hit ctrl+1 ctrl+2 ctrl+1 ctrl+2 fast as you can...) :lipssealed:

I had to smile while reading this...indeed there should be a few seconds cooldown.

#8 rutuliukas

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:00 AM

detonators dont have any cooldown...

and for the second, thats why i call choris the best pekker (one of the best i mean)... + bombing thous hp is preaty imposible in thous ways, you cant click ~10 mines + restore each 4 mines fast enough for your oponent not noticing and clicking restore... well the fact is detonators or mines dont have any cd's...

Edited by rutuliukas, 09 April 2012 - 07:01 AM.


#9 rutuliukas

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:07 AM

(lets say rc mine on ctrl+1 and rc deto on ctrl+2 so you hit ctrl+1 ctrl+2 ctrl+1 ctrl+2 fast as you can...) :lipssealed:

I had to smile while reading this...indeed there should be a few seconds cooldown.



you can click 4-5 mines in like 1-2 secs... just use right hands and right phingers on right buttons... test that before talking

Edited by Maxine, 09 April 2012 - 12:02 PM.
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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

(you can click 4-5 mines in like 1-2 secs... just use right hands and right phingers on right buttons... test that before talking)

Yes you can and that was meant by saying "most ridiculous pair of items" and "there should be a cooldown".
Sonic and Mangopie are right.

Edited by ScareGlow, 09 April 2012 - 12:02 PM.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

No flames in here, if you two (Dubro and Newhope) want to duke it out with mines, feel free to do that in game, but keep that out of forum. Any more such posts will get deleted (and more).

#12 rutuliukas

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

(you can click 4-5 mines in like 1-2 secs... just use right hands and right phingers on right buttons... test that before talking)

Yes you can and that was meant by saying "most ridiculous pair of items" and "there should be a cooldown".
Sonic and Mangopie are right.


i would vote yes for nowadays to add caldown to rc mines / detos

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:02 PM

because u took benefit of it before and now u dont want others to get it? cool.(not flame just question:P )

Edited by Alchemic, 09 April 2012 - 01:37 PM.


#14 rutuliukas

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:56 PM

because u took benefit of it before and now u dont want others to get it? cool.(not flame just question:P )


yes i try to stop others from pking with mines. and yes i have tooked enough benefit of it

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 02:52 PM

u try to stop thats why u're giving guide's how to do it :)

#16 rutuliukas

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:12 PM

i think thats what i said... happy you finaly understood... gtz
edit: if something is still unclear to someone, i am preaty sure if everyone will know how to avoid mines and how to use them they will become useless in pk

Edited by rutuliukas, 09 April 2012 - 03:13 PM.


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Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:44 PM

was sarcasm ok, now evry1 will know how to bomb, u still cant avoid planted exits etc.

#18 rutuliukas

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:01 PM

was sarcasm ok, now evry1 will know how to bomb, u still cant avoid planted exits etc.

i dont mind of planting bombing exit/entrances i care of "pk in action" ATM !

Edited by rutuliukas, 09 April 2012 - 04:01 PM.





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