about bans and stuff...

[GeneralM]

i think its really sorry for the people who get banned cuz some piece of shit cant stop abusing.... isnt there any other way

 

i dunno about this but every comp has a External and a Internal IP right? and i know that the External cant be changed or am i wrong... how about banning Those then instead of Internal IP's?

 

i know a lot about computers but my networking and IP stuff is a bit vague

[Leeloo]

Internal IPs are useless for anything outside their local network (if they have one. If they don't, they only have an external IP).

[Grum]

I think he means a MAC address.

[Leeloo]

Oh... In that case, mac-adresses are useless for this purpose, because there is no reliable way to get the mac-address of a computer not connected to the same local network as the server.

[GeneralM]

I think he means a MAC address.

 

 

Hells NO i dont

 

every computer has an Internal and an External IP

 

example my internal IP starts with 192

 

but my external starts with 218 or something

 

and a MAC adress is Uselless its just a Code 2 make a NAT unique

 

and my question is... Which one will get banned if you would ban me?

 

cuz if the internal would get banned... that be useless i could just change that right?

[Platyna]

192.168.X.X are local addresses. It is not available from outside local network

also it is what we call special purpose IP class and those IPs, same like

127.X.X.X and 10.X.X.X are not unique. They are given to computers inside

then network for identification INSIDE LAN.

 

Regards.

[GeneralM]

192.168.X.X are local addresses. It is not available from outside local network

also it is what we call special purpose IP class and those IPs, same like  

127.X.X.X and 10.X.X.X are not unique. They are given to computers inside

then network for identification INSIDE LAN.

 

Regards.

 

k that clears it up a bit never mind this topic anymore then... lock it for all i care

[Leeloo]

every computer has an Internal and an External IP

 

example my internal IP starts with 192

 

but my external starts with 218 or something

 

and a MAC adress is Uselless its just a Code 2 make a NAT unique

 

Not exactly.

 

Not every computer has an internal and an external IP. If you have a LAN (even if it's just your computer and your ADSL router) and a NAT router, you have an internal IP, and the router has the external IP (it has an internal too, for communicating with your PC). The NAT router translates between the interal and external IP, and if it works as it should, the internal is never seen outside the router. But people who connect their PC directly to the ADSL bridge, or a 56k modem don't have an internal IP. The computer has the external IP, and no translation is done.

 

The internal IP is useless outside the LAN.

 

The MAC address has nothing to do with NAT. It's used for communicating between network cards (eg. the one in your PC and the one in your router), because network cards don't understand IP adresses, only MAC adresses. It's burned into the network card, and if you have three network cards in one PC, you will have three MAC adresses. The Mac-address only makes sense on the same physical cable (ignoring bridges for a moment), each time a packet passes a router, the source mac address will change to this routers mac address, and the destination mac address will change to the one of the next router.

 

Usually you can just ignore the MAC address, and pretend that the computers use IP on the wire.

 

PS: If anything's unclear, or you want more details, just ask.