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  1. 1. What should be a good price for nexus removal stones from an NPC?

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    • 1.3Mgc
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I really think this would help the game. At this point there is a huge discrepancy between players who are willing to spend $$$$$$ to buy gc and pay exorbident amounts of $$ for pp. With recent additions to the game, bought pp really are a necessity to be competitive in pve at 150+ a/d. This will allow players to have a chance to compete with a lower entry cost. I voted 1mgc but tbh I would prefer 500k.

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This is:

1) a good idea for a gold coin sink.

2) helps control nexus removal drop/harvest event price.

3) might give some of us some motivation.

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I voted 1 mil GC.

 

The game needs a sink. A sink for those with huge GC and for those who are buying a ton of it. It'll help players and give some control over the market. even if marginally.

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I like that we are trying to come up with new ideas. Though everyone was complaining stuff was to expensive in 6.. like Rostos. Now they wanna pay 1m for a nexus removal or more?

 

Anyways once you cap out attributes.. all accounts will become mostly inactive like Mufossa's.. or even if you cap out A/D, you will play less. There's a couple people that capped certain stats and hardly play. I can easily list them, though im sure you guys know who they are.

 

The point im trying to make is, nexus removals will be acquired to easily (Which i would like for myself, but i hope it doesn't happen just because it will ruin the economy). Once someone becomes really strong what's the point of playing? Half the people like the challenge.

 

If people want to try to get rid of gold, i've got a better idea. Just donate it to me.. or.. Radu should make the giants spawn randomly at every x amount of hp, instead of something set :)

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If a lot of people reach the 48 cap, then we can have a vote about rising them to 52 or so, no?

Or I can add more positive perks that you need PPs for.

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Well apart from buying Experience there is no real long term source to dump GC onto.

 

 

If inflation goes downa nd GC becomes more scarce it will tak emuch longer to acheive capped attributes.

 

And also Mufossa did it and a lot of people who have done it did it with a ton of $. There will be plenty of people who can do it just as well with out the $. but with GC.. but it is 50% harder with the already current inflated price of nexus removals we have now. Inflation is hurting the game in a lot of ways. Prices are higher new players will be scared off.. people dont wanna lose rostos people dont really mix high end items much anymore so binders and serp stones etc are POINTLESS.

 

 

Also Radu makes a valid point. The potential to increase caps.. leaving more room for even tougher mobs. This game is continually growing. To ever think you've "beaten it" is ridiculous.

Edited by Inferno

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I like that we are trying to come up with new ideas. Though everyone was complaining stuff was to expensive in 6.. like Rostos. Now they wanna pay 1m for a nexus removal or more?

The current price is already at 1-1.5 milgc for nexus rems. Or did i miss something?

 

Edit:

Only difference is as Inferno said gc is rotated up to now, that NPC would actually take out a lot of gc then.

Edited by MannyNZ

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If a lot of people reach the 48 cap, then we can have a vote about rising them to 52 or so, no?

Or I can add more positive perks that you need PPs for.

amazing idea really!

 

not to mention even after getting all 48's there's many nice perks already to choose from, as well as getting rid of any pesky negs :D

 

And its not like 50 hydro bars for the nexus are simple/cheap to come by..so we arent gonna have 200 capped chars over night

 

 

 

btw current market price for nexus removals is 1.5 mil~ which is insane :P

Edited by Patriot

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If a lot of people reach the 48 cap, then we can have a vote about rising them to 52 or so, no?

Or I can add more positive perks that you need PPs for.

Positive perks would be a great idea. That is actually the logical trend in MMOs. once you finish building your char, you can improve it with some perks and such.

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I think the current price is about 1.3m, so that was my vote, but 1m is fine with me. It provides a cap for them. Raising the cap to 52+, would be great. We'd be able to buy items in larger quantities. ;) I like positive perks to, it would give other options for char building. Personally, I want to see both. My harvest alt can use the increase in emu carry and my main can use the positive perks.

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If a lot of people reach the 48 cap, then we can have a vote about rising them to 52 or so, no?

Or I can add more positive perks that you need PPs for.

more pos perks would awesome

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I like the idea of buying nexus removals from an NPC, I would certainly slowly aquire some

 

Like the idea of more positiver perks too, though it would be a long while before I could get any of those :)

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I remember the days when these stones would sell on market for 350-400kgc. I picked 1 million as it should be difficult but not the extreme it's going to now. People like mufo probably spent less than half of what it would cost to "build a mufo" today, even at that price.

 

 

This sounds like a job for Mr. Costel of Port Anitora. :-P

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keep it as what it is.

whats the point in going to wtf instance to try your luck for a nexus removal?

 

Plus you want us to go to wtf etc to lose rostos?:D

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Many keep asking for the conversation that started this poll. Here you go.

 

[18:37:42] [radu @ 6]: rostos were always 4/5 usd

[18:37:48] [Aislar @ 6]: radu you know what he means

[18:37:59] [radu @ 6]: he means he won't pay any money for rostos

[18:38:07] [Angler @ 6]: ye, was much more fun when rosts were 15kgc, but now i am showing my age

[18:38:07] [Aislar @ 6]: jesus

[18:38:12] [Marvin @ 6]: in-game price has gone up a lot, the $$ price has never changed

[18:38:28] [The_Punisher @ 6]: please radu, start 120-145 invance, we need see how changed are it

[18:38:36] [Wicky @ 6]: some ppl cant give $$

[18:38:48] [Aislar @ 6]: some people are looking for jobs for ages and ages

[18:38:53] [Aislar @ 6]: and ages

[18:39:06] [Aislar @ 6]: ....and ...ages

[18:39:35] [Wicky @ 6]: and still want to play

[18:39:36] [Angler @ 6]: I just started RL work again, and poorer than what i was on benefit.. But at least i feel better working for RL money

[18:39:38] [inferno @ 6]: how appropirate for this situation aislar https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hzYWzNTB8m0/hqdefault.jpg

[18:39:48] [Aislar @ 6]: oh god thanks

[18:39:58] [Aislar @ 6]: yea i can imagine angler

[18:40:10] [Angler @ 6]: It's true, no sh*t!

[18:40:10] [inferno @ 6]: were you in an accident?

[18:40:27] [wuffzel @ 6]: hmmm if you look at gc/$ ratio for haidir pass... rosto is still too cheap :o

[18:40:28] [Angler @ 6]: no, just unfortunate could not get emplyment

[18:40:30] [Aislar @ 6]: he might mean unemployment

[18:40:36] [Aislar @ 6]: yaya

[18:40:42] [Aislar @ 6]: WUFF

[18:40:49] [Aislar @ 6]: you say bad things

[18:41:27] [inferno @ 6]: Just for you Wuff https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hzYWzNTB8m0/hqdefault.jpg

[18:41:55] [Aislar @ 6]: i dont get it

[18:42:02] [wuffzel @ 6]: but rosto over 50k gc....i guess that was a line crossed where it hurts

[18:42:29] [inferno @ 6]: whoops wrong link

[18:42:31] [Aislar @ 6]: exactly wufff

[18:42:34] [Aislar @ 6]: Lol thot so inf

[18:42:38] [inferno @ 6]: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Definition%3A+Inflation

[18:42:50] [Aislar @ 6]: aha

[18:42:51] [wuffzel @ 6]: no matter Inferno..i won't hit F2 ;p

[18:42:56] [Aislar @ 6]: it wasn't bad

[18:43:16] [funfool @ 6]: the ingame price for rosto is crazy, for lower level players, can take weeks to earn enough .... then lose it in 5 min is no fun

[18:43:33] [wuffzel @ 6]: or in 5 seconds

[18:43:45] [wuffzel @ 6]: the time you are safe when enter a map ;p

[18:44:06] [Adamantinus @ 6]: one is safe 5sek when entering?

[18:44:06] [Achilles @ 6]: or less if it is a pk map and I want j00 :>

[18:44:12] [Aislar @ 6]: yes adam

[18:44:18] [Adamantinus @ 6]: nice to know ty

[18:44:28] [radu @ 6]: so you mean to tell me that people can play a game but they can't afford 5 usd a month for some entertainment?

[18:44:34] [wuffzel @ 6]: from the 5 seconds take 2-3 away from lagg

[18:44:35] [Aislar @ 6]: OMG radu

[18:44:38] [radu @ 6]: you mean those people never buy unnecesary items?

[18:44:46] [radu @ 6]: OMG what?

[18:44:50] [Aislar @ 6]: you look at this from teh wrong point of view

[18:44:52] [RAkAiN @ 6]: its a legitimate concern for any player radu, shoudl speak to people with a tad bit more respect

[18:44:55] [Aislar @ 6]: soem prefer to use gc only

[18:44:56] [Achilles @ 6]: $5/month is differnt then poofing 25 rostos in a month

[18:45:05] [Achilles @ 6]: than*

[18:45:07] [wuffzel @ 6]: radu is right...he pays all the stuff, so we cvan have fun

[18:45:10] [inferno @ 6]: You want them to be cheap tho

[18:45:13] [wuffzel @ 6]: can *

[18:45:16] [RAkAiN @ 6]: after lining your pockets for years and years, you should have already started treating this like a business

[18:45:16] [radu @ 6]: RAkAiN, who the fuck are you to criticize me?

[18:45:23] [inferno @ 6]: because the people converting Rostos -> GC will make you richer than shit

[18:45:28] [Jeff @ 6]: i've got 3 bots, that averages out to $5/month lol

[18:45:30] [Aislar @ 6]: oh lordy

[18:45:34] [inferno @ 6]: more people buy them, more money overall

[18:45:34] [radu @ 6]: what gives you that right?

[18:45:35] [RAkAiN @ 6]: as a customer myself, im speaking the truth

[18:45:49] [RAkAiN @ 6]: what gives me rights? being born gave me rights

[18:45:57] [starDark @ 6]: ^

[18:45:59] [radu @ 6]: oh, if you are a customer, ok, you have that right

[18:46:02] [RAkAiN @ 6]: im not saying anything bad, just pointing 1 little thing out

[18:46:15] [starDark @ 6]: did you seriously question the right to criticize?

[18:46:22] [starDark @ 6]: k lets globally shut the fuck up

[18:46:28] [Aislar @ 6]: no thsi is fun

[18:46:30] [radu @ 6]: well, everyone has the right to criticize

[18:46:36] [radu @ 6]: but so do I

[18:46:49] [radu @ 6]: you criticize me, I criticize you

[18:46:55] [Aislar @ 6]: radu i think all ppl are saying is the price of rosts INGAME, meaning gc, is just too high

[18:47:02] [RAkAiN @ 6]: yes..

[18:47:06] [Rabbitman @ 6]: radu 120-145 invance plx maybe we poof rostos for j00

[18:47:08] [Rabbitman @ 6]: <3

[18:47:09] [Wicky @ 6]: yep

[18:47:12] [inferno @ 6]: the bad part of that is people are hoarding them like crazy

[18:47:17] [radu @ 6]: yes, I know what people are saying

[18:47:19] [inferno @ 6]: wont let them go for anything

[18:47:20] [Aislar @ 6]: okay

[18:47:21] [radu @ 6]: it's a free market

[18:47:38] [radu @ 6]: stop paying for them in game, and the prices will go down

[18:47:42] [Jr_ @ 6]: how about this idea

[18:47:44] [Aislar @ 6]: hmmm

[18:47:52] [Jr_ @ 6]: i know we have talked about gold memberships

[18:48:13] [Jr_ @ 6]: make the rosto find chance higher for those who pay $5 a month for the membership

[18:48:21] [RAkAiN @ 6]: either way, those who DONT spend $ on rosto's do spend GC on them, keeping others buying from you

[18:48:21] [Jr_ @ 6]: take a look at sales over 12 months

[18:48:27] [Aislar @ 6]: oooooo

[18:48:30] [Aislar @ 6]: I kind of like that one

[18:48:34] [Rabbitman @ 6]: prefer $5/month and you do not need rosto to not drop

[18:48:40] [Aislar @ 6]: lol

[18:48:41] [Jr_ @ 6]: and if people like it change the game to a $5 membership a month

[18:48:44] [wuffzel @ 6]: EL has its big plus for giving all same chance

[18:48:57] [radu @ 6]: I don't liek that idea

[18:49:06] [starDark @ 6]: Don't like it either tbh

[18:49:13] [starDark @ 6]: Membership? YOLO

[18:49:21] [Marvin @ 6]: yeah... hard core fighters can lose several rostos a month. i know i have

[18:49:23] [inferno @ 6]: that seem slike a bandaid fix and would probably overall cost radu $

[18:49:49] [Rabbitman @ 6]: as far as rostos specifically go, adding a premium services npc like OL has would help

[18:49:51] [inferno @ 6]: All we need to drop rostos is a GC sink

[18:49:53] [inferno @ 6]: That's it

[18:49:57] [funfool @ 6]: all player should be treated equall

[18:50:01] [wuffzel @ 6]: we have a team of 5-7 daredevils for 120145...just waiting for the magic bleu spam

[18:50:01] [inferno @ 6]: if everyone in the game had 0GC it'd start all over again and it'd be ok

[18:50:04] [Rabbitman @ 6]: use haidir passes as premium currency

[18:50:05] [Wicky @ 6]: so we all cant enjoy playing evenly..

[18:50:11] [radu @ 6]: there you go

[18:50:12] [Rabbitman @ 6]: and you can buy rostos for 8 haidir passes...

[18:50:17] [Rabbitman @ 6]: or therm for 180...

[18:50:20] [starDark @ 6]: OL deals perfectly with $ <-> GC

[18:50:23] [Marvin @ 6]: all players are allowed to buy rostos from the shop... as far as i know

[18:50:27] [radu @ 6]: RM, why not for 10 passes?

[18:50:29] [starDark @ 6]: Buy platinum coins, constant price

[18:50:34] [starDark @ 6]: Use platinum coins to buy services

[18:50:38] [starDark @ 6]: or special items

[18:50:39] [Rabbitman @ 6]: but you get the idea..premium currency

[18:50:42] [radu @ 6]: how would that help though?

[18:50:47] [Rabbitman @ 6]: then only sell 1 item in shop (haidir passes)

[18:50:54] [Rabbitman @ 6]: then people use them to get w/e they want in game

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[18:50:58] [radu @ 6]: what would be the difference?

[18:51:03] [The_Punisher @ 6]: tyvm

[18:51:04] [wuffzel @ 6]: ty

[18:51:08] [Rabbitman @ 6]: say there are 500 haidir passes on bots but 0 rostos

[18:51:11] [lavp @ 6]: ty

[18:51:16] [Rabbitman @ 6]: helps game balance b/c people can buy haidirs to get rostos

[18:51:24] [radu @ 6]: but if someone can buy 500 haidir passes they can also buy rostos with them, no?

[18:51:29] [radu @ 6]: I mean for that money

[18:51:38] [Rabbitman @ 6]: the players who need the rostos arent the ones paying the $$

[18:51:44] [radu @ 6]: instead of 250 for passes, they can pay 250 and get 60 rostos

[18:51:48] [Rabbitman @ 6]: sot he people paying $$ buy whater will get them the most gc

[18:51:53] [Rabbitman @ 6]: by using premium currency

[18:52:02] [Rabbitman @ 6]: all shop items will have the same gc/$ rate

[18:52:12] [Rabbitman @ 6]: make sense?

[18:52:24] [radu @ 6]: won't that make the haidir passes go up even mor ein price

[18:52:37] [inferno @ 6]: the rostos have been static price for years

[18:52:40] [funfool @ 6]: not make sense in a free market

[18:52:40] [inferno @ 6]: that's not the problem

[18:52:47] [Aislar @ 6]: gc sink!

[18:52:48] [inferno @ 6]: the problem is there is too much flow of GC into the game and hardly any spent

[18:52:51] [Rabbitman @ 6]: possibly, but if you removed all other shop items it should be the same

[18:52:52] [inferno @ 6]: Double the NPC buy rate

[18:52:59] [inferno @ 6]: make it actually cost you something to buy from an NPC

[18:53:09] [Aislar @ 6]: if npcs bought for more, more gc out of game

[18:53:12] [radu @ 6]: ok, I am confused about something now

[18:53:13] [inferno @ 6]: create a gold invested daily that requires 100k+ a day to get something

[18:53:26] [radu @ 6]: 1. Peopel complain about how all the items are expensive (non shop items)

[18:53:34] [radu @ 6]: 2. people complain there is a need for a new gold sink

[18:53:55] [inferno @ 6]: the only reason the prices of non shop items are high is because of the current GC/$ rate

[18:54:05] [inferno @ 6]: there is so much GC in the game that it's driving prices up

[18:54:11] [Aislar @ 6]: less gc prices of rosts would go down b/c they wouldn't be affordable at current price

[18:54:12] [radu @ 6]: how many people in EL can say: I have more GC than I can use?

[18:54:13] [inferno @ 6]: It costs more to make stuff these days then to buy them

[18:54:19] [inferno @ 6]: so unles syou just have a passion for crafting

[18:54:20] [Aislar @ 6]: i can't

[18:54:21] [inferno @ 6]: it's pointless

[18:54:23] [Rabbitman @ 6]: I can atm radu

[18:54:27] [Aislar @ 6]: shutup rabbit

[18:54:29] [inferno @ 6]: what are you using it on?

[18:54:29] [Rabbitman @ 6]: no nexus removals on market to buy :<

[18:54:29] [Aislar @ 6]: :>

[18:54:32] [inferno @ 6]: to buy from other players?

[18:54:39] [inferno @ 6]: that GC just gets invested in other players

[18:54:41] [inferno @ 6]: and the GC rotates

[18:54:46] [inferno @ 6]: hardly any of it is spent on NPC

[18:54:49] [Aislar @ 6]: it needs a place to go OUT

[18:54:58] [inferno @ 6]: and those with the huge GC's are selling it for ridiculous conversions driving up the market

[18:55:03] [radu @ 6]: how about a nexus removal from npc?

[18:55:06] [inferno @ 6]: So we need to poof the gold.

[18:55:07] [Aislar @ 6]: :o

[18:55:08] [Aislar @ 6]: YES

[18:55:12] [inferno @ 6]: Radu

[18:55:15] [inferno @ 6]: that is a stroke of genius.

[18:55:21] [Aislar @ 6]: that would be PERFECT radu

[18:55:24] [inferno @ 6]: I'd be 100% ok with that, as long as it was expensive

[18:55:26] [radu @ 6]: ok, how much gold?

[18:55:26] [inferno @ 6]: like 2 mil GC

[18:55:27] [Rabbitman @ 6]: depends on price but would help

[18:55:32] [Aislar @ 6]: 1.5m to 2m

[18:55:38] [inferno @ 6]: it needs to be EXPENSIVE

[18:55:38] [Rabbitman @ 6]: nah, tbh 500k-1m

[18:55:45] [Lelugo @ 6]: ja u get pro and no more motivation for play insane, no xp.. only invasion is pro and ofc u have good gc but cant but nexus

[18:55:46] [inferno @ 6]: people with huge GC need to have something to dump it on

[18:55:48] [Aislar @ 6]: 1.2m-1.6m

[18:55:49] [radu @ 6]: I think 1m should be okish?

[18:55:52] [inferno @ 6]: and those with huge GC are the ones buying the stones

[18:55:55] [Aislar @ 6]: yea 1m

[18:55:58] [inferno @ 6]: 1m would be fine. I wouldn't bitch.

[18:56:01] [radu @ 6]: or let's make a poll

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For people curious there are more things on the line than just instances.. Besides things like loot tables on instances can always be adjusted.

 

With prices so high there is literally no reason to make half the high end items in the game. Making the skills duds. People with equal amount of time invested in mixing skills getting the shaft. Look at CoL for example :D

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When nexus removals get sold by NPC, why not add PP at say 2M gc (assuming the nexus removal sells at 1M):

saves hauling those 50 hydro bars (for a small extra fee, ofc)

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Selling nexus removals on a npc would be a very good gc sink, All tho I'm not entirely convinced that alone would bring down the cost of ing's for mixing high end items. As the way it is now it cost 2x in ing cost to mix a jagged sabre then what it cost from a npc. So imo selling nexus removals on a npc with other adjusted npc prices would be of more benefit over all to the EL economy. (Note: the ing prices I'm referring about are binding stones, serpent stones etc...). The idea of just buying PP's with gc would be another good idea to add to the gc sink.

From all the idea's I see i dont think its just the inflated price of rosto's that is bothering the majority of the el community. So it seems it would be better to address more then just one issue to try and solve the economy problems.

Norad

 

Edit: Raising attribute cap's to 52 I'd support too.

Edited by Norad

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