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Hi all ,,Just thought I would let you know. Even if you Know you think you know a person you don't ,, I was so I thought friends with Infect, infection Cyrus ,,we all went to WTF together with a team. I loaned him my char cause he was better at tanking ,I was going through a divorce with my husband and had little time to play .Let alone 2 chars , so I let him play on my high ad char .while ,I was dealing with RL problems ,,I moved away and to another province and getting settled in .I tried to log into my char and low and behold he changed the pass ,,I have been trying to contact him but he will not respond ,, He sent me a Mercator saying that in other words that I lost my char he was keeping it. Now not only that I have to deal with RL stuff and in a new Province he pulls this on me ...... Now tell me I should not be down all over again , Thanks for letting me vent

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Sorry to hear that also, I removed the one char he had left in LSD (seems he removed the others himself) we do not tolerate such aweful behaviour. Can u please tell me the name of the char he stole from you so I can double check my guild list.. thanks.

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Yes ,I admitted I loaned him the char ,,he also promised he would never Take or Change the pass on me ,,and seeing that we were going to WTF !!!! with my guildies ,, as I said I would let him go on her ,,, ,,then he asked to change Mhysa to a male so seeing that he was on her most of the time I agreed ,,again we were friends ,,and he had promised that I would have access to her when he was not using the char., also he is a music teacher ,,so I thought he had values and integrity ,, ,,but we all were shocked that he did this ,,we as my guildies ,,,and I . I did try to get the pass from Radu ,, and I was not honest about it ,,cause of rule 4,and 10 ,,I'm sure others would have tried the same ,,I did not think I was doing wrong in saying a little white lie ,,it is my char after all,, I have tried to mesg Infect via Skype and e-mail ..He has yet to respond .I am sure ,I am not the first to trust others with our char ,,especially If you thought they were friends .Ok maybe if he is on holidays he is not getting my mesg , But why did he change the pass ,, ?

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You are not telling the entire story. This can be chalked up as whatever. For her privacy, I will leave the details off of the forums. She did ask for discretion in our original agreement.

 

I am extremely busy in RL. Buying a house, etc.

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WTF. I do think (hope) this is a misunderstanding. The Infect I know wouldn't do such crap, like stealing a char. Maybe he did a name change and forgot to let you know, or maybe he waits for you to set up some terms regarding the char. Give it a bit of time.

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I too hope it IS a misunderstanding as Altaria's post #6 certainly differs from her initial post regarding this matter. If you agreed you loaned him the char maybe you should have waited a little longer to hear from him. I do not like the thought that I may have removed an innocent party from the guild, unless ofc he is guilty of stealing your char.

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Altaria/Meow you are an amazing person. I love and cherish our friendship, and regardless of spending less time online both of us, your are a person extremely dear to my heart. Infect, on the other hand, is a very dear friend and companion and I also treasure his friendship.

Because of that, I simply can't believe that he can do such a crappy thing. I am absolutely sure Infect wouldn't do that to some idiotic scammer out there, yet to a friends. I might be wrong - but let me hope I am not.

Try getting in touch with him, now - since he knows there is some issue - I'm sure he will get on and solve things together. I hope you will get Mhysa back or something else - according to the agreement he spoke off.
So dear, just take a deep breath - and be optimistic (and ignore the guild gossip/panic machine).

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Yes ,I admitted I loaned him the char ,,he also promised he would never Take or Change the pass on me ,,and seeing that we were going to WTF !!!! with my guildies ,, as I said I would let him go on her ,,, ,,then he asked to change Mhysa to a male so seeing that he was on her most of the time I agreed ,,again we were friends ,,and he had promised that I would have access to her when he was not using the char., also he is a music teacher ,,so I thought he had values and integrity ,, ,,but we all were shocked that he did this ,,we as my guildies ,,,and I . I did try to get the pass from Radu ,, and I was not honest about it ,,cause of rule 4,and 10 ,,I'm sure others would have tried the same ,,I did not think I was doing wrong in saying a little white lie ,,it is my char after all,, I have tried to mesg Infect via Skype and e-mail ..He has yet to respond .I am sure ,I am not the first to trust others with our char ,,especially If you thought they were friends .Ok maybe if he is on holidays he is not getting my mesg , But why did he change the pass ,, ?

 

I tried contacting you ingame for permission to post about our agreement, but you were not on. Due to my schedule crunch, I will waive the rights for you.

 

First off, I do not appreciate some of the comments, emails, skype messages that I have been receiving. It is a true showing of who your friends really are and who aren't. Those concerned actually asked me, but those who didn't chastised me.

 

I'll start from the beginning so people can stop their way off base gossip.

 

As many know, I've tanked for many teams over the years. I've trained multiple characters of my own to do this, and have bought/sold characters for small profit over time. All the while, I kept to a small group of people that are/were loyal and respected me as I did them. Meow PM'd me one day ingame discussing a sharing agreement with the character, Mhysa. This was about a year ago and before the multi rule was repealed. She would allow me to use the character on weekends or special occasions to tank for the team I organized and have run for over a year now. Her benefit was that I could not receive the items I earned on Mhysa. I did not feel bad about not receiving payment for my time and expertise because I was having fun and helping others have fun in a difficult instance (to some..). (Just to ballpark, I probably made close to 2mgc profit on that character with WTF's alone after paying for resources/breaks)

 

A couple of months ago she sent me a message on Skype saying that she was interested in selling the character and that she didn't have much time to play her. As of her situation at home, she never indulged me with that information. All I heard was second hand information, unless I am mistaken here... I told her that I would be willing to discuss terms of keeping the character until she wanted to play it again (how many times has she sold/bought this character?). After receiving a couple of offers off of the unofficial forums and ingame, she was convinced about selling.

 

This is where the current situation leads to where I am now known as a "scammer". I discussed a rental/lease agreement with Meow. This was a decision that took a couple of days for her to accept and agree to. Our agreement was simple. Return the character after the allotted time in exact or similar condition. In return, I had full access of the character. I was able to change name, move pp, change appearance, etc. For her security, we agreed upon a password that I would use for the character.

 

Now the explanation... Just like renting an apartment, car, house, etc., the landlord is able to check the property as long as it is in the agreement. I agreed to a partial checking by giving her the password that we agreed upon. However, I do not hear of many banks or lessors riding off in your car while you are asleep or coming into your house and taking a sh*t.

 

Early on, we had an altercation about this. The altercation was about leveling the character and how she wanted to use it to train. I informed her that I am perfectly capable of training and doing dailies on the character, but I can't do them if you log on and do them for me. Essentially, the character is very close to 170 defense right now. I have been working hard on obtaining that goal by training in many ways...

 

Then this past week happened. I logged on to find the character moved around again. Not only at this point have I invested close to 3mgc in this character, the items that are on the character now were not bought with the money that Cyrus (old Mhysa) had made. The only leverage I had on the character was the password. I changed the password and sent her a mercator that was very simple. It included Rules 4 and 10. Just like any contract in life, both sides must hold up their side of the contract to it's full extent.

 

I have no intention of scamming or keeping the character. That is not who I am or who I ever will be. The fact that my integrity and my profession was brought into question is another story. After receiving many weird Skype messages, I uninstalled Skype on my phone until it was rectified. As far as e-mails, I don't see them (unless they are in spam, which is automatically emptied....)

 

Just FYI, We were on a 6-month agreement with a monthly payment due on the beginning of each month. This just so happened right before July 1st, so I didn't send my recent payment.

 

Until I can talk with her, I will keep the password as what it is. I am also emptying what storage it has onto another account. That will be payment enough for what I've already paid. I will release the password to her when she sees this message. I am not dealing in private on this one any longer. It seems that will just cause more headache than necessary.

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This is what I said on Skype infect ,, Brandon .are you really taking my char ? Are teachers not supposed to be honest ?

Then I again I skyped yet again saying .Really Infect I am on my own, my husband takes me for a ride now you do. please do not do this to me .. I beg of you . I did not bad mouth you ,, I tried 5 times ,and your Skype was on,, all you had to do was say a short , hey meow , I did not take her .. Instead as you said I uninstalled Skype .Also I was online with Meow ,you logged in .then off right away ,, instead of giving me a pm .. Yes I was afraid you took her because of the Mercator mesg you sent quoting Rule #4 and # 10 ,,what else would ,someone think ,in receiving a mesg like that ,plus change of pass ,, We agreed that I could log on to her so I could play her once in a while ,until I was ready and settled in to my new home .

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Yes he does but I am still not getting any contact from him ,,,


And Thank you Infect ,,That is all you had to do ,,


She was not empty Infect all the coin from the instances you did you put on your other chars ,, so you did not have to take all ,you could have left what you started with ,,but so be it ,

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I did what I had to do. I did not move any profits from when we started last year until April. Your storage barely covered those earnings.

 

Check your forum PMs.

 

Don't thank me. An apology for smearing my name would be great.

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Without having even the slightest idea about your agreement and settlements, I wholeheartedly felt that this is a misunderstanding. Therefore, despite the plethora of voices claiming that Infect stole the char, I honestly found that highly improbable.
I am glad to see the things settled down between you two, but I am afraid that most of this drama was amplified by some of your panicked friends 'persons with an exacerbated interest in WTF instances'.

Ah and yes, pure logic is the ruin of the spirit - one very wise man once said (and damn, he was French).

P.S. And the logic of some of alarmist, scaremonger, panic-monger friends of yours 'persons with an exacerbated interest in WTF instances' sucks. Take my word for it.
P.S.2. Now that's enough drama for this year, no more orgies guild events for you two for the next 8 hours

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Pity you didn't sort all this out in private prior to posting. I certainly would NOT have acted the way I did (in response to the first post), so my sincere apologies to Infect.

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