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The Heath Care Bill

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1) Insulting my country is no way to win an argument.

2) MOST people in the US, despite propaganda by Michael Moore, have no problems with health bills. You don't need to make millions per year to have good insurance.

3) I am not an idiot that is afraid of commies under my bed. Again with the caricatures!

 

It seems that a lot of people outside of the US have no idea what Americans think, so fall back on preconceptions that just aren't true.

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so where is proof that most have no problem with health bills?

 

your country is behind in almost everything the rest of the world has, healthcare, a good economy, technology, and has more crime :\

amazing how most can stick their head in the sand and pretend everything is ok

 

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/...-dying-each.php

 

This line of study began in 2002 by the Institute of Medicine (IOM). Their original estimate was that

18,000 Americans had died because they were uninsured in the year 2000. Subsequent studies using the IOM methodology combined with Census Bureau estimates of insurance coverage concluded that 137,000 people died from 2000 through 2006 which included 22,000 in 2006.

 

The information presented in this post explains the basic estimate I use. That estimate currently is 22,000 Americans dying from lack of health insurance per year. Divided by 365 days of the year, the number is 60 Americans per day.

 

those dead people are ok with their health bills too?

 

so basicly you prefer 60 people dying a day then have the government make sure everyone gets insured getting the treatment they need to stay alive?

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Ok, @ infamous

Our federal government/president are corrupt atm ; and if you don't understand that then it is impossible for you to see why us Americans don't want them in charge of our Healthcare...

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Ok, @ infamous

Our federal government/president are corrupt atm ; and if you don't understand that then it is impossible for you to see why us Americans don't want them in charge of our Healthcare...

 

 

All governments/presidents are corrupt, they are politicians. Politics = squirming your way around truths, half-truths and lies. And why? Because they can never please all.

 

As for you not 'wanting them in charge of your healthcare': Some things actually ARE in the the best interest of the population even though the population doesn't realise it. At the end of the day though, your president and government are both there because you and your fellowcitizens voted for them :wacko:

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You know what would have been great?

 

http://www.opm.gov/insure/health/

 

Oh wait, the common citizen cannot get in on this program :wacko: Too bad, some of their plans even cover dental.

 

But never fear, U.S Universal Healthcare is on it's way! I'm sure it will be great having watered down coverage! Oh, too bad we don't have near enough doctors to cover the massive amount of people that will need treatment. Oh! Can't we just create a program that will create incentives for people to go through the schooling to become doctors? Sure, why not. School related programs is TOTALLY America's strong suit.

 

In the mean time, where will we get enough doctors to possibly cover our basis? Well, sure there is a little subsection in the bill that puts a cap on how much doctors can make a year, but doctors in the United States will still make more money than European doctors. Oh! Europe! I think the U.S has just found a supply of doctors.

 

Comments aside, I will be interested to see how the attached Student Loan Revision will play out. Directly borrowing from the government could be good or bad.

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haha welcome to Canada, you thought it was going to be the Amero for currency? no it will be the Wooden Canuck coin :wacko: of even less value then your gold, no wait, silver, no wait, tinfoil coins that you can redeem for how much gold? none? :P Welcome to communism, only a bad word in the USA because they wanted it to be a bad word :P don't like that? ok call it socialism then like the EU, enjoy ;)

 

Audit the fed even? why? what they sell has no value either, not even 99.999% pure gold anymore, expensive spraypaint though... It only has value if you recognise it as such. And why does gold have such high value anyway? it's really not that usefull, just shiny... try oil/plastic if you want a commodity, or even mercury ;)

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