ohmygod Report post Posted August 30, 2008 (edited) #1 This is not a thread to be spammed with crap about people quiting because of them. What i want to know is: Best way to utilise them - Required eng lvls to place etc. Best ways to defend against them - besides leaving the pk area I only ever used 1 so far and was going to invest in more of the other types, but want to know more wthout wasting my gc testing them as I R poor a/d trainer Edited August 30, 2008 by ohmygod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talixim Report post Posted August 30, 2008 defend against something that removes MI? I don't think you can. (yet?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SmurF Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Unless you tele port to range around them or leave the map I don't think there is much that you can do to defend against them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Articenens Report post Posted August 30, 2008 I really don't, PK but what i would do is combat back with a different ward. Either mana burn or MD for MI ward, that way it makes it harder for them to cast the spells on you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talixim Report post Posted August 30, 2008 (edited) pk is was too fast-paced for that imo edit- wrong word Edited August 30, 2008 by Talixim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hannibal Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Would be good idea if CoTU protected against the wards; or at least MI ward. Offtopic: Talix, your sig is too big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korrode Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Would be good idea if CoTU protected against the wards; or at least MI ward. I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XaRondas Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Unless you tele port to range around them or leave the map I don't think there is much that you can do to defend against them. if u have etheral points left , u would be able to tele ;p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fryslan Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Would be good idea if CoTU protected against the wards; or at least MI ward. ehm.. CoTu is already over-used i think Why not make Warlock's Cloak more usefull and make them protect against MI ward or all wards -Fry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkguy Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Would be good idea if CoTU protected against the wards; or at least MI ward. ehm.. CoTu is already over-used i think Why not make Warlock's Cloak more usefull and make them protect against MI ward or all wards -Fry Would be too strong if its against all wards, everyone would get the cape, wards wouldn't have a real use left. Maybe have anti-ward medallions that have super chance to break during fighting > 1/10, also has a chance to break every minute its worn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fryslan Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Would be good idea if CoTU protected against the wards; or at least MI ward. ehm.. CoTu is already over-used i think Why not make Warlock's Cloak more usefull and make them protect against MI ward or all wards -Fry Would be too strong if its against all wards, everyone would get the cape, wards wouldn't have a real use left. Maybe have anti-ward medallions that have super chance to break during fighting > 1/10, also has a chance to break every minute its worn. Well, cape's/cloaks are there to being used right? And much people doesn't use Warlock's atm, CoTu already got a good use, against BroD/BoD/rings. And only giants drops Warlock's? -Fry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mango Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Leave the pk area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted August 30, 2008 What if you were able to see a NPC that you trade invasion tokens for some kind of blessing that would protect you for maybe 1 hour or so? And if you think that the NPC blessings would ruin what the wards are for then make the NPC blessings only give you chance (say 15-??%) to block ward attacks. I think wards make and unfair advantage to many if you don't have an option to protect. PaulB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robotbob Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Make it so wards have a chance to be destroyed by mines|rc mines. Therefore that creates a 'sapper' type mission, for engineers. Its much like the after effects of large summon stones (Giants etc). Once used it requires several sorties, or a team assault to remove the defenders. (random assertion) There should be all types of options for various player types in combat, engineers, range, magic, melee. If everyone could participate, with their own style, I think participation would increase. (random suggestion) (IMHO this game whilst waiting for the implementation of player built cities, could really use some sort of cross guild team CTF map of some sort, invasion type tokens as the prize, npc to redeem them. Only way into this map is by paying an npc, you arrive at a staging area, etc) (And\Or have rostos poof into a 50% chance of a 'reward\invasion' token.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ateh Report post Posted August 30, 2008 (random assertion)There should be all types of options for various player types in combat, engineers, range, magic, melee. If everyone could participate, with their own style, I think participation would increase. that will happen soon , theres already enough good engineers to make use of the combat support that engineers could play. just need to convince them to enter the map with you rangers on the other hand, when theres enough good rangers you wont have to worry about them entering PK, they will happily wander in if supported by good melee fighters. have a look at the ranging topics. its already been stated that 5- 10 rangers using magic arrows could take down a high level PKer ( if they got lucky and all hit him at the same time he wouldnt have time to restore - it would mean instant death ) but back to topic, how to defend against the wards? stand still ? ( each STEP taken removes mana, i might be wrong on that one so dont bust my balls) but that wont be a clever thing to do once the rangers are in on the game. Otherwise, GTFO of the area seems to be the wisest option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkguy Report post Posted August 30, 2008 Are wards visible? if they aren't, implement a spell that do make em visible, also give em 10000+ hp and 150 defense, so they can be destroyed, when you can see them, you can attack them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpius Report post Posted August 31, 2008 Are wards visible? if they aren't, implement a spell that do make em visible, also give em 10000+ hp and 150 defense, so they can be destroyed, when you can see them, you can attack them. rofl wtf... by the time you killed that ward you coulda also killed the one who set it like 10-20 times... or it would prolly vanish because of the 5 mins anyways.. lol nontheless i think the wards may should be attackable, stats yet to be decided.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robotbob Report post Posted August 31, 2008 but back to topic, how to defend against the wards? stand still ? ( each STEP taken removes mana, i might be wrong on that one so dont bust my balls) but that wont be a clever thing to do once the rangers are in on the game. Otherwise, GTFO of the area seems to be the wisest option I never considered that initially. A ranger(s) could drive off a ward'd group by remote fire. (off topic since its another 'wishlist') I do think rangers need greater range, and "run_to" to be implemented eventually, but both are questions about game mechanics. (I.e. How far can you see, server load, client load, how will running affect everything, pk, mining, etc ) Well for that matter, magic needs a bit more range. You have to be in melee range to cast spells, it really needs to extend beyond the 5 tiles attack range (melee) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkguy Report post Posted September 1, 2008 (edited) Ok, make it level 1 defense, but with a great amount of hp. Players would be doing great damage to it, so it would be destroyed easily in 1-2 mins depending on the amount of players attacking and their levels. And maybe, when its destroyed, everyone within a certain perimeter of the ward gets +mana or such. EDIT: if its destroyed only, when it normally poofs, that shouldn't happen. Edited September 1, 2008 by Chimeran Wolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites