H0tzenplotz Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Omg, stop whining, will you? Summoners make stones, others use stones. If you suggest one can only use the stone if s/he has a decent summoning level, why not suggest one can only use a sword if s/he has a decent manu level? After all the manuers make the swords. A problem with too many stones being used was recognized and action was taken. I think it is ok as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryokotsusei Report post Posted January 7, 2008 uh. but people aren't making the damn stones, they're buying them from npc. durrr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logger Report post Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) Omg, stop whining, will you?Summoners make stones, others use stones. If you suggest one can only use the stone if s/he has a decent summoning level, why not suggest one can only use a sword if s/he has a decent manu level? After all the manuers make the swords. A problem with too many stones being used was recognized and action was taken. I think it is ok as it is. Y should we stop whining, it's a perfectly valid point, u obviously dont get it do u, manufacture is the purpose of MAKING things not using them, summoning is the purpose of SUMMONING (hence the name of the skill itself) creatures/monsters to aid you, not to create BS stones to allow any1 to use even at 0 summon... basically it ruins the skill itself as it used to be a decent skill, now it's just shit. Setting levels to use stones is a must, as you can pretty much tell by the votes, as it is 63-31 in favour of the stones being altered in some way. Edited January 7, 2008 by Logger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) Omg, stop whining, will you?Summoners make stones, others use stones. If you suggest one can only use the stone if s/he has a decent summoning level, why not suggest one can only use a sword if s/he has a decent manu level? After all the manuers make the swords. A problem with too many stones being used was recognized and action was taken. I think it is ok as it is. Y should we stop whining, it's a perfectly valid point, u obviously dont get it do u, manufacture is the purpose of MAKING things not using them, summoning is the purpose of SUMMONING (hence the name of the skill itself) creatures/monsters to aid you, not to create BS stones to allow any1 to use even at 0 summon... basically it ruins the skill itself as it used to be a decent skill, now it's just shit. Setting levels to use stones is a must, as you can pretty much tell by the votes, as it is 63-31 in favour of the stones being altered in some way. Thank you! Though I dont think summon lvl should be required for stones, cuz then only summoners can use them, in which there is no need for the stones to begin with. BUT removing stones from NPC would fix this problem, allow summoners to choose who they give stones to. Guilds with summoners will have a strategical advantage. Which is what this server is all about!!! -Not having 10 alts harvest lilacs all day and buy 23984 stones to slaughter everyone with, there is no strategy involved here.. -.- Edited January 7, 2008 by SL7yz0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logger Report post Posted January 9, 2008 (edited) there still is a use for stones with summon level, with normal summons u can't summon while fighting and it's a chore to put ingreds in manu window even if u could, whereas with stone u can do in a fight with 1 click, like just before u die for example, so still is good to use, considering nearly every1 summons while fighting. Edited January 9, 2008 by Logger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShoDoKaN Report post Posted January 10, 2008 (edited) like sl7 said if there is to be a strategy why not let the summoners make the stones. they removed the greater swords npc then why not summoning stones? just my personal opinion in the situation... Edited January 10, 2008 by ShoDoKaN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites