SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) Many people are not fighting often on PK server because of fear that any1 can just summon a bear and pwn them in 1 hit, regardless of any levels actually earned. It will be a long time before this ends because of tiger stones to... Most people running away/beaming. Very pathetic, please remove these stones. ___________________________________________________ Also, would be nice to remove stones in order to make summoning a useful skill in PK again. Would make summoners, mages, fighters cool triple team, Not to mention the loved suppliers Edited January 5, 2008 by SL7yz0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakie Report post Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) d0h vote remove from NPC ofcourse but i doubt it will help any. Dont think radu wants them be removed, otherwise he already did Edited January 5, 2008 by jakie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) Well, tried to fix the problem with a 1/4 chance to work, but it hasn't helped much. Any random newb having the power to summon an invincible animal... I don't think its right, and it is ruining potentially fun fights. I think at very least, let the serve rmodernize with the levels, and don't allow them ingame until the summoners can make the stones themselves. Or removing stones completely works for me to. Edited January 5, 2008 by SL7yz0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Logger Report post Posted January 5, 2008 voted remove from NPC But also summon levels i think should be needed to use the stones too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moonlight Report post Posted January 5, 2008 I voted to remove from NPC but I've seen quite a few of these polls doesn't seem like anything is gonna change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipmunk Report post Posted January 5, 2008 voted to remove completly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handyman Report post Posted January 5, 2008 i put remove from npc but think you should have certain summoning lvl to use, then you would need to train like other skills Keep summoning skill alive Handyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc_Savage Report post Posted January 5, 2008 I vote we remove iron helms from the server because I don't have one yet! Guys this is stupid and immature....keep it as is......better yet, change the ratio back to 1 and 1. Who would of thought that the first issue debated on the pk server would be bear stones "0mg0z0rz pk is ded b/c of teh st0nes!!!" Doc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) Well people are getting fed up with getting auto-killed by invincible stones that everyone under the sun can get. PKs should reflect hard training and skill, not the ability to buy an invincible stone. These stones are ruining PK, and its on a PK server!!! Who would take risk to lose items OR rosto when any1 could just click teh stone, and you are dead immediately. I know i would spend less time training and more time fighting assassin and other of his guild, but they just summon invincible bear so it not fun engage in a fight which is impossible to win. We need to remove these stones for the same reason that the new weps etc were removed, they are overmodernized. Edited January 5, 2008 by SL7yz0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc_Savage Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Lets argue about this for 3 more weeks. By then all of the trainers will be able to easily kill a bear and this entire thread will be moot. It is a bear for goodness sake. Just suck it up for a little while. How about we spend time training rather than posting on the forums. With all of the time you spend here denouncing the bear stones you could be working on beating them. How fun and surprising would it be for someone to summon a bear stone on you and you kick it to hell like it was nothing and then go after the summoner. I guarantee you it will feel like the first time you ever pked someone in the top 5. It will be worth it so just grin and bear (pun intended) it for now. Doc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerobaum Report post Posted January 5, 2008 remove the profound things, though i use for protection cause im not a fighter im just a crafter . but i can just get a guildy for protection. or my lovely diss/tele rings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterpiter Report post Posted January 5, 2008 voted remove from NPC But also summon levels i think should be needed to use the stones too my thoughts too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Well 2/3's of the people want them at least removed from NPC. Is this enough votes for a change? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
handyman Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Lets argue about this for 3 more weeks. By then all of the trainers will be able to easily kill a bear and this entire thread will be moot. And then it will a thread about Tiger stones and so on lol Like i said you should at least have a certain summoning skill to use certain stone other wise where is the hard work and deadication like in all the other advantages I vote we remove iron helms from the server because I don't have one yet! well i suggest you get your alc and manu up so you can make them or join with others and work at it together thats what this game is about or am i wrong just my views guys Handyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Well 2/3's of the people want them at least removed from NPC. Is this enough votes for a change? Make that 3/4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerobaum Report post Posted January 5, 2008 remove em!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matty27 Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Leave them in and change them back to 1 summon guaranteed from 1 stone. What is you point when you say it not fun engage in a fight which is impossible to win. Some of us put up with this whenever we see you..... do you think we're having fun when you attack us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Leave them in and change them back to 1 summon guaranteed from 1 stone. What is you point when you say it not fun engage in a fight which is impossible to win. Some of us put up with this whenever we see you..... do you think we're having fun when you attack us? So when the PKers decide it would be fun to attack the tier 1 and 2 service providers those people should not be able to defend themselves? Put the stones back to one click one creature. For that matter give us 250gc dragon stones. That should allow us workers some peace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) The difference is i trained hard for levels, and i havent killed either of you. In fact, I, and many others, don't even PK because of these stones. I started having fun yesterday, fighting with people around my level, right outside votd. Then they use summon stones, so i go back to training. Its pointless.. At least remove from NPC and let the stones come in game as the summoners make em. I guess if these stones aren't removed from NPC, alot of ppl wont start spending large amounts of time PKing until 80s a/d. Summon stone=automatic kill, for only a few gc.. 70% of people want them at least removed from NPC Lets get em outa here! :confused: Edited January 5, 2008 by SL7yz0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted January 5, 2008 The difference is i trained hard for levels, and i havent killed either of you. In fact, I, and many others, don't even PK because of these stones. I started having fun yesterday, fighting with people around my level, right outside votd. Then they use summon stones, so i go back to training. Its pointless.. At least remove from NPC and let the stones come in game as the summoners make em. I guess if these stones aren't removed from NPC, alot of ppl wont start spending large amounts of time PKing until 80s a/d. Summon stone=automatic kill, for only a few gc.. Harvesters work hard too, and they get a lot less experience per hour than PKers. Yes, you have not PK'd me but others have. I might just sell all my harvested items now and buy as many stones as I can afford just in case this great idea actually comes to fruition. They would be a great sale item if that day ever comes. I'll be rich I tells ya! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 The difference is i trained hard for levels, and i havent killed either of you. In fact, I, and many others, don't even PK because of these stones. I started having fun yesterday, fighting with people around my level, right outside votd. Then they use summon stones, so i go back to training. Its pointless.. At least remove from NPC and let the stones come in game as the summoners make em. I guess if these stones aren't removed from NPC, alot of ppl wont start spending large amounts of time PKing until 80s a/d. Summon stone=automatic kill, for only a few gc.. Harvesters work hard too, and they get a lot less experience per hour than PKers. Yes, you have not PK'd me but others have. I might just sell all my harvested items now and buy as many stones as I can afford just in case this great idea actually comes to fruition. They would be a great sale item if that day ever comes. I'll be rich I tells ya! Im not saying you dont have the right to have summon stones and use them But having them in game before summoners can make them is wrong. Because they are WAY to powerful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted January 5, 2008 In that case, why should there have been armor, esses, capes, weapons, gloves, monsters, npcs? At the start nobody could make any of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 (edited) In that case, why should there have been armor, esses, capes, weapons, gloves, monsters, npcs? At the start nobody could make any of those. Thats not the point, How can you deny that these stones aren't over-powered? Do you think essence and capes and gloves, etc are overpowered for the server? ,,,I can pwn any random person, regardless of how strong he is, or how weak I am, If i buy a pair of leather gloves. No.. Anyway _______________________________________ Like I said, it is ruining potentially fun PK fights. <---- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And thats the most important thing Edited January 5, 2008 by SL7yz0r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Like I said, it is ruining potentially fun PK fights. <---- If they are so fun, why would the other person resort to using a stone?Your idea of fun sounds a lot like intimidation and bullying to me. I grasp the concept that this is a PK server. Maybe you should also grasp the concept that not everyone joined the PK server to PK. Self-defense is perfectly reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SL7yz0r Report post Posted January 5, 2008 Like I said, it is ruining potentially fun PK fights. <---- If they are so fun, why would the other person resort to using a stone?Your idea of fun sounds a lot like intimidation and bullying to me. I grasp the concept that this is a PK server. Maybe you should also grasp the concept that not everyone joined the PK server to PK. Self-defense is perfectly reasonable. I dont disagree, but invincible self defense is, especially for only a few gc. I would have no problem with this if some1 had actually trained hard and worked to make these summon stones that are impossible to defeat. By anyone. Anyhow i've posted enough in this thread for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
