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one of my members fell victim to the old gc 1st trick and robbed him of 2 hydro bars, i spoke to Rich guild and they confirmed that Mononoke has scammed in the past, he is no longer in Rich :icon13: i am warning you all not to trust this guy when trading, i also warned all my members once again to always ask for the gc in the last slot if more than 1 item changes hands, i hope others reading this will remember to do the same

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well.. as sad as it seems.. mononoke did it to me a few minutes before leoi.. :P:omg:

here is chat log. I ws trading bronze greves.. she said she woudl give me gc, and other items.. so she puts 24k in by hundreds puts items in.. the items go to my sto and 2400 go to my inv.

 

[11:12:30] [PM to Mononoke: ty]

[11:12:37] [PM from Mononoke: ty]

[11:13:06] [PM to Mononoke: mmm scamm]

[11:13:21] [PM from Mononoke: wath ?]

[11:13:30] [PM to Mononoke: thats why i got only 2.4k gc]

[11:13:45] [PM to Mononoke: 2400]

[11:13:48] [PM to Mononoke: not 24000]

[11:14:14] [PM from Mononoke: lol, how is happened that ....]

[11:14:20] [PM to Mononoke: either give me the rest.. or ill outlaw u so no one trades with you]

[11:15:07] [PM to Mononoke: so what it gunna be?]

[11:15:49] [PM to Mononoke: ?]

[11:16:11] [PM to Mononoke: hmm? going to give me my gc's?]

[11:16:13] [PM from Mononoke: i don't know how is happened :(]

[11:16:16] #GM from caecus: what did he do?

[11:16:20] [PM to Mononoke: all i got was 2400]

[11:16:48] #GM from IuNnO: i fell for the oldest trick.. put 24000 gc in teh first slot. then put other items and took out gc so all was left was 2400

[11:16:48] [PM from Mononoke: now i have only 81gc at storage and inventory!]

[11:17:00] Items you have in your storage:

14856 Gold Coins

[11:17:14] [PM to Mononoke: take a picture of storage and inv and show me then]

[11:17:28] [PM from Mononoke: ok sec]

[11:17:30] #GM from IuNnO: she says she got 81 gc in sto and inv.. so i asked for her to take a pic

[11:17:35] [PM to Mononoke: and dont drop anything]

[11:21:38] [PM from Mononoke: give me e-mail addres]

[11:21:53] [PM to Mononoke: CENSORED@yahoo.com]

[[11:26:39] [PM to Mononoke: i still want my gc.. ]

[11:26:52] [PM from Mononoke: ready]

[11:27:03] [PM from Mononoke: see at your mail]

[11:27:03] [PM to Mononoke: ready?]

[11:27:15] [PM to Mononoke: hold on internet running slow]

[11:27:40] [PM to Mononoke: well if u dotn have gc.. and i dont have it.. where i it?]

[11:27:40] [PM to Mononoke: IS*]

[11:27:57] [PM from Mononoke: i don't know :(]

[11:28:19] [PM to Mononoke: i have 14k i should have 36k]

[11:28:58] [PM from Mononoke: :(]

[11:29:08] #GM from IuNnO: lol apparently 21,600 gc disapeered -.-

[11:29:23] [PM to Mononoke: so ur sayign that 21,600 gc just disapeered?]

[11:29:39] #GM from DarkRipper: What?

[11:29:44] #GM from IuNnO: nothing..

[11:30:12] [PM from Mononoke: maybe yes, i don't know. lol sorry for that :@]

[11:30:16] [PM to Mononoke: well.. i dunt care if u dont have it.. u owe me 21,600gc]

[11:30:46] There is no map for this place.

[11:31:58] [PM to Mononoke: understand?]

[11:32:25] [PM to Mononoke: or u give me my bronxe greave back.. and ill give back what i got]

[11:32:25] [PM from Mononoke: i give you gc.... you lie! i show you]

[11:32:43] [PM to Mononoke: I DONT LIE U IDIOT I ONLY HAVE 14k! i had 12k before that]

[11:32:58] [PM to Mononoke: welocem to outlaws]

[11:33:16] [PM from Mononoke: ok, but i don't scammed you, bye]

[11:33:48] [PM to Mononoke: im not that mean.. just give me my **** gc.. or gimme back my **** greves and ill give back what i got from you]

[11:34:01] #GM from IuNnO: god **** what a *****

[11:34:09] #GM from IuNnO: apparently im the liar now -.-

[11:34:27] [PM from Mononoke: then you scammed me!]?

[11:34:35] [PM to Mononoke: how?]

[11:34:48] [PM to Mononoke: how would i scam you.. if u got ym armor.. and i got shit load of nothing?]

[11:35:14] [PM from Mononoke: when i give you greaves you giv me my stuff and 2400gc... then you scammed me]

[11:35:44] [PM to Mononoke: why? all i got was 2400 and the stuff.. therefore its equal]

[11:36:17] [PM from Mononoke: i give you all gc don't lie!]

[11:36:38] [PM to Mononoke: imnto lieign either.. ive only got 14k.. i had 12k before trade]

[11:37:12] Items you have in your storage:

14856 Gold Coins

[11:37:19] [PM from Mononoke: im not sure for that and stop this lie]

[11:37:26] [PM to Mononoke: Items you have in storage: 14856]

[11:37:33] [PM to Mononoke: I'm lieing?]

[11:37:40] [PM from Mononoke: yes]

[11:37:48] [PM to Mononoke: how?]

[11:38:22] [PM to Mononoke: How am i lieing?]

[11:38:27] [PM from Mononoke: you say me: you give me 2400gc.... and i give you all gc]

[11:38:41] [PM to Mononoke: Wnat to see a pic of my inv / storage?]

[11:38:56] [PM from Mononoke: yes]

[11:39:27] [PM from caecus: no, i can't do that]

[11:42:56] [PM to Mononoke: ok i took pic.. ill send in a second.. internet runing slow.. just want to inform you.. if u look thre is no bag at my fett so i couldnt have drop]

[11:43:02] [PM to Mononoke: it]

[11:43:56] [PM to Mononoke: ok?]

[11:44:10] [PM from Mononoke: i see... ]

[11:44:16] [PM to Mononoke: u see what?]

[11:44:48] [PM from Mononoke: pic and i don't know how is happened that]

[11:45:20] [PM to Mononoke: ok well for now.. i want my greaves back.. and ill give back wht i got.]

[11:46:31] [PM from Mononoke: yes, but i give you all gc! and he lie me now]

[11:46:38] [PM from Mononoke: stop]

[11:46:59] [PM to Mononoke: once u see pic thoo u know im nto lieing.. so stop accusing me of lieing]

[11:47:03] [PM from Mononoke: you*]

[11:47:17] [PM from Mononoke: you see too !]

[11:47:34] [PM to Mononoke: no i dont]

[11:47:55] [PM to Mononoke: ur feet are blocked.. cant rtust pic u couldve dropped bag at ur feet with gc.. and kept 81 in sto.. redo pic plz]

[11:48:50] [PM from Mononoke: i stop say you.... i don't like liers!]

[11:49:31] [PM to Mononoke: a-hem im not lieing.. ask anyone in guild BoC, ask tommyknocker, as felex, ask 2cute2, ask looter, ask evilshiva, ask shazon, ask asmoean..]

[11:50:52] [PM from Mononoke: i don't need ask... i see you lie]

[11:51:21] [PM to Mononoke: How do u see i liE?]

[11:51:58] #GM from IuNnO: i took pic of my inv, sto, and my feet (no bad and only 14k in sto.. i shouldve had 36k after trade

[11:54:08] #GM from DarkRipper: Iunno you must do it, its the only way to get scammers under control

[11:54:18] #GM from IuNnO: easier to find without having lost mroe stuff

[11:54:27] #GM from DarkRipper: Bye

[11:56:34] #GM from caecus: well, LOOTER has posted a thread on mononoke pulling the trick

[11:57:04] #GM from DarkRipper: You hear that iunno?

[11:57:07] #GM from IuNnO: when did looter?

[11:57:13] #GM from caecus: just now

 

 

ok yeah... so here is a pic of me..and my sto and my inv and my feet (no bag at my feeet so i couldt have dropped the gc.. (i had 12k gc before the trade.. traded Bronze greave to her for 24k (and then she added items) well after trade. i only had ~14k gc in sto.

 

 

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I can verify what Looter and Leoi have posted.

 

Mononoke actually left RICH after getting caught scamming the other day and being told he needed to make it right. As far as I know, he did, and then began PMing members of RICH asking to be let back in. Up until recently, he'd been a good guildie (yes, Mononoke is a guy with a girl character). We'd considered giving him a second chance since he seemed genuinely sorry, but after what transpired today, absolutely not.

 

Here's my logs from this morning:

 

[08:17:37] #Ig [Looter:LGC] hi can a high rank pm me

[08:17:38] You have been saved!

[08:18:15] [PM to Looter: Hi, how can I help you?]

[08:18:33] [PM from Looter: one of my members just got scammed by one of your members]

[08:18:42] [PM from Looter: the old gc 1st trick]

[08:18:44] [PM to Looter: Who was involved and what happened?]

[08:19:26] [PM from Looter: mononoke traded leoi for 2 hydro bars, leoi failed to ask for gc last and mon changed the gc]

[08:19:48] RallosZek: enough? :P

[08:19:57] rachie: lol yes Cheesy ty so much Cheesy

[08:20:11] RallosZek: np :>

[08:20:12] [PM to Looter: Let me talk to him, just a minute]

[08:20:18] [PM from Looter: kk thx]

 

then I looked up stats on gossip and then did a #list_guild to see if someone had let Mononoke back in RICH, but apparently not (that's the only part I cut from this, gossip stats and long list of guildies)

 

[08:22:50] [PM to Mononoke: why are you scamming people?]

[08:23:20] [PM from Mononoke: i scammed one peaple]

[08:23:32] [PM to Mononoke: Looter says you scammed someone out of hydro bars?]

[08:23:43] [PM from Mononoke: yes]

[08:23:53] [PM to Mononoke: why?]

[08:24:29] [PM from Mononoke: i ask you back day but you don't ask me Sad]

[08:24:35] [PM to Looter: He left RICH the other day and had asked to be let back in. He will NOT be let back into RICH. We don't allow scamming]

[08:24:41] [PM to Looter: talking to him now]

[08:24:52] [PM to Mononoke: so that's a reason to scam people?]

[08:24:57] [PM from Mononoke: i need to join in RICH but... Sad you not ask me... and tirun]

[08:25:05] [PM to Mononoke: I was at school at day]

[08:25:09] [PM from Looter: ok thanks]

[08:25:26] [PM to Mononoke: We talked on GM about this last night and were going to let you back in. But cannot do that now that you are scamming more people]

[08:25:40] [PM to Looter: no problem, very sorry about that. I hate scammers]

[08:25:57] [PM to Mononoke: Our rules say no scamming]

[08:26:29] [PM from Mononoke: ok, tyvm, sorry for that i like RICH and i need join again]

[08:26:38] [PM from Mononoke: i not scammed more]

[08:26:53] [PM from Mononoke: accept me in RICH ? again]

[08:27:15] [PM to Mononoke: Looter says you just scammed someone named leoi in a hydro bar deal]

[08:27:25] [PM to Mononoke: that you changed the money at the last minute]

[08:27:30] [PM to Mononoke: is this true?]

[08:27:56] [PM from Mononoke: yes i scammed leoi for 2 hydro bars]

[08:28:07] [PM to Mononoke: Then you need to make it right]

[08:28:14] yionRay: hi llyn

[08:28:15] [PM to Mononoke: and no, we do not allow scamming here in RICH]

[08:28:18] Llynara: hi yion

[08:28:27] [PM to Mononoke: you cannot be in RICH and scam people]

[08:29:24] [PM from Mononoke: i promys: i don't scammed more people... please accept mi again and i stop i this scamming ]

[08:29:27] [PM to Looter: I told him he needs to make it right, I don't know if he will. I am sorry that your friend got scammed Sad]

[08:29:48] [PM from Mononoke: in*]

[08:30:33] [PM to Mononoke: No, too much scamming. I'm sorry]

[08:30:33] [PM from Looter: ok thanks alot, i will wait and see what happens]

[08:31:03] [PM from Mononoke: i scammet leoi and kramhel.... i stop this Smiley]

[08:31:21] [PM from Mononoke: but i give money in kramhel]

[08:31:40] [PM to Mononoke: It's still wrong]

[08:31:57] [PM to Mononoke: and if you don't give money back to leoi, someone will probably post you in outlaws]

[08:32:11] [PM to Mononoke: scamming is the worst way to ruin your reputation in EL]

[08:33:30] [PM from Mononoke: i give money from leoi but please accept me again in RICH and i stop my scamming forever]

[08:34:44] [PM to Mononoke: Sorry, no. You are scamming too much. We were going to let you in after first time, but you keep scamming people]

[08:34:53] [PM to Mononoke: this is not good for you and not good for our guild]

 

The conversation ended there. I'm just shaking my head over this one. :(

Llyn

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