BruceMorrow GM of KOTR an admitted bagjumper

[love42]

BruceMorrow GM of KOTR stole my guilies db and admitted it!!!!!! Even though as he says he dose not allow bagjumping in his guild?!?!?!!! WTF he dose not allow bagjumping but is admitts to bagjumping himself!!!!!!

Whats wrong with that picture??

 

Here is the chat log

 

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[20:19:39] love42: large spidy spawn here

[20:19:52] love42: and up here follow

[20:20:17] jerry1: wow

[20:20:40] #GM from love42: its a great training place

[20:20:58] jerry1: wow nice place

[20:20:59] #GM from love42: once u can handle large spiders

[20:21:16] This death message is sponsored by jerry1

[20:21:26] #GM from love42: i went from 19/19 to 35/35 in 5 days here

[20:21:31] [PM from jerry1: me gloves]

[20:21:37] [PM from jerry1: i lost me gloves]

[20:21:42] [PM from jerry1: get the gloves]

[20:22:24] love42: where my guildies db?

[20:22:26] [PM from jerry1: i were killed by spider i have no schield ]

[20:22:30] [PM from jerry1: take]

[20:22:36] [PM from jerry1: gloves]

[20:22:41] [PM from jerry1: ok]

[20:22:45] [PM to jerry1: someone stole]

[20:22:57] [PM from jerry1: asket the gloves back]

[20:23:13] love42: hey give my friends/guildies db back

[20:23:21] [PM to jerry1: trying]

[20:23:44] [PM to jerry1: dont ignore me i know u can gear me]

[20:23:52] [pm from jerry1: ?????]

[20:23:55] [PM to jerry1: lol oops meant for local]

[20:23:59] [PM from jerry1: lol]

[20:24:09] love42: give db back i know u can hear me

[20:24:46] love42: ok fine dont give it back ill just talk gm to gm

[20:25:42] [PM to jerry1: someone stole dont worry i know who he is ill take care of it]

[20:25:51] [PM to jerry1: what did u lose ill replace]

[20:26:00] [PM from jerry1: only gloves]

[20:26:06] BruceMorrow: who are u talking to?

[20:26:21] love42: smeg bagjumper ur gonna be reported on putlaws list

[20:26:40] [PM to jerry1: leather gloves?]

[20:26:58] [PM from BruceMorrow: what r u talking abouttt nut?]

[20:27:24] [PM to BruceMorrow: im not a nut u stole my guldie jerry1 db]

[20:27:42] [PM from BruceMorrow: i don't have nothing]

[20:27:45] [PM from jerry1: yes]

[20:27:53] [PM to jerry1: lol yeah right i saw u]

[20:27:57] Puntif found Joker and got a Ring of Valley of the Dwarves

[20:28:00] [PM to jerry1: crap hold on]

[20:28:02] [PM from jerry1: lol]

[20:28:09] [PM from jerry1: you saw me]

[20:28:21] [PM to BruceMorrow: dont lie i saw u]

[20:28:37] [PM from BruceMorrow: saw me do what?]

[20:28:49] [PM to BruceMorrow: steal jerry1's db]

[20:29:03] [PM to BruceMorrow: ill handle it gm to gm]

[20:29:15] [PM to BruceMorrow: i gave u several chance to return]

[20:29:26] [PM to BruceMorrow: and ill post u on outlaws forum]

[20:29:41] [PM from BruceMorrow: what are u talking about all i got was drops from spiders thread and a pair of gloves]

[20:31:01] [PM to BruceMorrow: yeah the pair of gloves was my guildies db]

[20:31:02] [PM from BruceMorrow: i don't care what u report it's a lie and i'll report u as a scammer]

[20:31:17] [PM to BruceMorrow: spiders dont drop anything but thread]

[20:31:40] [PM from BruceMorrow: i tought that was a drop hecan have them back if theirs his ]

[20:31:54] [PM to BruceMorrow: ok go ahead i have chat log to back me up what do u have nothin]

[20:32:02] [PM from BruceMorrow: i don't need them anyways i can make them]

[20:32:29] [PM to BruceMorrow: its not about giveing them back its about u takeing them and claiming them as a spider drop]

[20:32:35] [PM to BruceMorrow: bagjumper]

[20:34:04] [PM from BruceMorrow: i did'nt know u were talking to me,a db usually has more than one thing it,honest mistake if u want those gloves you can come and get them]

[20:34:05] #GM from love42: sorry jerry was dealing with the bagjumper who stole ur db

[20:34:16] #GM from love42: im still not done with im

[20:34:29] #GM from jerry1: leave him

[20:34:34] #GM from love42: dont worry ill give u some glove just wait a few

[20:34:56] #GM from jerry1: i have 2 gloves

[20:35:13] #GM from love42: ill replace the ones u lost

[20:35:51] #GM from love42: i didnt think ud be bagjumped when i brought u here

[20:36:22] #GM from love42: i want nothing but to give u back what u lost and to kick that bagjumper ass

[20:36:39] #GM from jerry1: leave him i have 2 gloves i not want that 1 gloves

[20:37:11] [PM from BruceMorrow: well do you want them or not you'd think the were make of gold ,i've gave more that a pair of gloves to noobs befffore]

[20:37:13] #GM from love42: its not the gloves its the moral of it u shouldnt bagjump

[20:38:14] [PM to BruceMorrow: but if u want to save face n return im by the diamonds]

[20:38:18] [PM from BruceMorrow: and if its true tell me what the guy was doing fighting if he could'nt kill a spider without armor]

[20:39:03] [PM from BruceMorrow: listen noob i don't need a worthless pair of gloves]

[20:40:44] [PM to BruceMorrow: i was showing him this place and he had armor on and tried a spidy ]

[20:41:19] [PM to BruceMorrow: that dosent mean u have the right to steal his db]

[20:41:21] [PM from BruceMorrow: well like i said i did'nt know they were his]

[20:41:26] BruceMorrow wants to trade with you. Use the trade icon then click on him/her in order to accept the trade.

[20:41:39] [PM to BruceMorrow: lol ok u saw death mesage then snatched it up ]

[20:41:51] [PM to BruceMorrow: yeah right didnt know my ass]

[20:42:11] [PM from BruceMorrow: no i was afk just got back in the game]

[20:42:11] [PM to BruceMorrow: im not a stupi child]

[20:42:47] [PM to BruceMorrow: lol ok u were afk then why were u killing sipers]

[20:42:59] [PM from BruceMorrow: those are mine]

[20:43:08] [PM to BruceMorrow: u cant be afk and kill anything]

 

 

Notice the death message at 20:21:16 and then his admit to taking it at 20:29:41. Large spiders dont drop anything but thread I've killed thousands of them I should know. Not only did he admit taking the db but then he said he didnt take it and he also called me a "nut". What kind of GM acts like this?? And yes he did return the gloves but like I told him its not about the gloves its about the fact that he bagjumped. Jerry1 is a new player who had just joined the guild and I (a GM) showed him this spider temple and what happened he got bagjumped. Jerry1 trusted me and this bagjumper comes along and ruins my credibility. I can not and will not allow this. Its just plain wrong. And the fact that it took so much to get him to return the gloves just says more about how much of a lier and bagjumper he is.

[pook]

BruceMorrow GM of KOTR stole my guilies db and admitted it!!!!!! Even though as he says he dose not allow bagjumping in his guild?!?!?!!! WTF he dose not allow bagjumping but is admitts to bagjumping himself!!!!!!

Whats wrong with that picture??

 

Here is the chat log

 

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[20:19:39] love42: large spidy spawn here

[20:19:52] love42: and up here follow

[20:20:17] jerry1: wow

[20:20:40] #GM from love42: its a great training place

[20:20:58] jerry1: wow nice place

[20:20:59] #GM from love42: once u can handle large spiders

[20:21:16] This death message is sponsored by jerry1

[20:21:26] #GM from love42: i went from 19/19 to 35/35 in 5 days here

[20:21:31] [PM from jerry1: me gloves]

[20:21:37] [PM from jerry1: i lost me gloves]

[20:21:42] [PM from jerry1: get the gloves]

[20:22:24] love42: where my guildies db?

[20:22:26] [PM from jerry1: i were killed by spider i have no schield ]

[20:22:30] [PM from jerry1: take]

[20:22:36] [PM from jerry1: gloves]

[20:22:41] [PM from jerry1: ok]

[20:22:45] [PM to jerry1: someone stole]

[20:22:57] [PM from jerry1: asket the gloves back]

[20:23:13] love42: hey give my friends/guildies db back

[20:23:21] [PM to jerry1: trying]

[20:23:44] [PM to jerry1: dont ignore me i know u can gear me]

[20:23:52] [pm from jerry1: ?????]

[20:23:55] [PM to jerry1: lol oops meant for local]

[20:23:59] [PM from jerry1: lol]

[20:24:09] love42: give db back i know u can hear me

[20:24:46] love42: ok fine dont give it back ill just talk gm to gm

[20:25:42] [PM to jerry1: someone stole dont worry i know who he is ill take care of it]

[20:25:51] [PM to jerry1: what did u lose ill replace]

[20:26:00] [PM from jerry1: only gloves]

[20:26:06] BruceMorrow: who are u talking to?

[20:26:21] love42: smeg bagjumper ur gonna be reported on putlaws list

[20:26:40] [PM to jerry1: leather gloves?]

[20:26:58] [PM from BruceMorrow: what r u talking abouttt nut?]

[20:27:24] [PM to BruceMorrow: im not a nut u stole my guldie jerry1 db]

[20:27:42] [PM from BruceMorrow: i don't have nothing]

[20:27:45] [PM from jerry1: yes]

[20:27:53] [PM to jerry1: lol yeah right i saw u]

[20:27:57] Puntif found Joker and got a Ring of Valley of the Dwarves

[20:28:00] [PM to jerry1: crap hold on]

[20:28:02] [PM from jerry1: lol]

[20:28:09] [PM from jerry1: you saw me]

[20:28:21] [PM to BruceMorrow: dont lie i saw u]

[20:28:37] [PM from BruceMorrow: saw me do what?]

[20:28:49] [PM to BruceMorrow: steal jerry1's db]

[20:29:03] [PM to BruceMorrow: ill handle it gm to gm]

[20:29:15] [PM to BruceMorrow: i gave u several chance to return]

[20:29:26] [PM to BruceMorrow: and ill post u on outlaws forum]

[20:29:41] [PM from BruceMorrow: what are u talking about all i got was drops from spiders thread and a pair of gloves]

[20:31:01] [PM to BruceMorrow: yeah the pair of gloves was my guildies db]

[20:31:02] [PM from BruceMorrow: i don't care what u report it's a lie and i'll report u as a scammer]

[20:31:17] [PM to BruceMorrow: spiders dont drop anything but thread]

[20:31:40] [PM from BruceMorrow: i tought that was a drop hecan have them back if theirs his ]

[20:31:54] [PM to BruceMorrow: ok go ahead i have chat log to back me up what do u have nothin]

[20:32:02] [PM from BruceMorrow: i don't need them anyways i can make them]

[20:32:29] [PM to BruceMorrow: its not about giveing them back its about u takeing them and claiming them as a spider drop]

[20:32:35] [PM to BruceMorrow: bagjumper]

[20:34:04] [PM from BruceMorrow: i did'nt know u were talking to me,a db usually has more than one thing it,honest mistake if u want those gloves you can come and get them]

[20:34:05] #GM from love42: sorry jerry was dealing with the bagjumper who stole ur db

[20:34:16] #GM from love42: im still not done with im

[20:34:29] #GM from jerry1: leave him

[20:34:34] #GM from love42: dont worry ill give u some glove just wait a few

[20:34:56] #GM from jerry1: i have 2 gloves

[20:35:13] #GM from love42: ill replace the ones u lost

[20:35:51] #GM from love42: i didnt think ud be bagjumped when i brought u here

[20:36:22] #GM from love42: i want nothing but to give u back what u lost and to kick that bagjumper ass

[20:36:39] #GM from jerry1: leave him i have 2 gloves i not want that 1 gloves

[20:37:11] [PM from BruceMorrow: well do you want them or not you'd think the were make of gold ,i've gave more that a pair of gloves to noobs befffore]

[20:37:13] #GM from love42: its not the gloves its the moral of it u shouldnt bagjump

[20:38:14] [PM to BruceMorrow: but if u want to save face n return im by the diamonds]

[20:38:18] [PM from BruceMorrow: and if its true tell me what the guy was doing fighting if he could'nt kill a spider without armor]

[20:39:03] [PM from BruceMorrow: listen noob i don't need a worthless pair of gloves]

[20:40:44] [PM to BruceMorrow: i was showing him this place and he had armor on and tried a spidy ]

[20:41:19] [PM to BruceMorrow: that dosent mean u have the right to steal his db]

[20:41:21] [PM from BruceMorrow: well like i said i did'nt know they were his]

[20:41:26] BruceMorrow wants to trade with you. Use the trade icon then click on him/her in order to accept the trade.

[20:41:39] [PM to BruceMorrow: lol ok u saw death mesage then snatched it up ]

[20:41:51] [PM to BruceMorrow: yeah right didnt know my ass]

[20:42:11] [PM from BruceMorrow: no i was afk just got back in the game]

[20:42:11] [PM to BruceMorrow: im not a stupi child]

[20:42:47] [PM to BruceMorrow: lol ok u were afk then why were u killing sipers]

[20:42:59] [PM from BruceMorrow: those are mine]

[20:43:08] [PM to BruceMorrow: u cant be afk and kill anything]

 

 

Notice the death message at 20:21:16 and then his admit to taking it at 20:29:41. Large spiders dont drop anything but thread I've killed thousands of them I should know. Not only did he admit taking the db but then he said he didnt take it and he also called me a "nut". What kind of GM acts like this?? And yes he did return the gloves but like I told him its not about the gloves its about the fact that he bagjumped. Jerry1 is a new player who had just joined the guild and I (a GM) showed him this spider temple and what happened he got bagjumped. Jerry1 trusted me and this bagjumper comes along and ruins my credibility. I can not and will not allow this. Its just plain wrong. And the fact that it took so much to get him to return the gloves just says more about how much of a lier and bagjumper he is.

sooooo your fighting over a pair of gloves ??

[love42]

Its not about the gloves its about the fact that he bagjumped and addmitted it then denied it. Its about the fact that he is a bagjumper. It dosent matter whats in the bag if he bagjumped he bagjumped plain and simple. And its wrong!!!

[pook]

Its not about the gloves its about the fact that he bagjumped and addmitted it then denied it. Its about the fact that he is a bagjumper. It dosent matter whats in the bag if he bagjumped he bagjumped plain and simple. And its wrong!!!

yea yea i guess so kinda funny lol i have an extra pair of gloves in storage does he want them ? lol

[scullsyk]

lol how strange... 19/19 to 35/35? didnt know that was possible, and the other thing, is pretty stupid to i guess... man 16 levels in 5 days

[love42]

lol how strange... 19/19 to 35/35? didnt know that was possible, and the other thing, is pretty stupid to i guess... man 16 levels in 5 days

 

 

Luagh at me if u want but i did it. YES it IS possible. belive or dont belive whatever u want. As for the other "stupid thing" u speak of hey bagjumping is bagjumping is bagjumping. If u lost a db to a bjer ud be mad too but for me its not the loss it the fact that he admitted it then denied it. obviously he dosent want to be known as a bjer. Hell who would bagjumping is wrong no matter whats in the bag or how u look at it.

Edited October 10, 2006 by lov42

[Sheesh]

Sounds to me like the spider dropped a bag on a death bag in which he picked up. Did not sound like a purposeful event. Okay, so spiders dont drop leather gloves, but up until recently, snakes did not drop rare books, fluffies did not know what NMT cloaks were, and several other creatures did not drop the loads of stuff they drop now. I am not taking sides, I dont know any of the people involved, but I do know stranger things have happened and this is beyond something to ruin one's reputation over, whether it be BruceMorrow's or your own. Needless to say, mistakes happen. If you can't kiss and make-up over this, then at least realize this is just a game.

[scullsyk]

lol i didn't call it stupid, i said it was stupid

[Mircea]

Looks like things got inflamed a little too quickly there. I wasn't there to see, but from the posts it wasn't *clear* that BruceMorrow was aware he(?) was being address until *after* he had been accused! He then got angry at accusation but *did* offer stuff back. Bagjumpers just say no.

 

The whole thing appears to have escalated because Lov42 thought she had BruceMorrow's attention while he was largely AFK. So I think this falls under the category of mutual misundertsanding.

 

Please "kiss and make-up" (thnx Skullsyk...I think..)

Edited October 10, 2006 by Mircea

[Infamous]

i want the gloves pookies

[Happy_G]

Sounds to me like the spider dropped a bag on a death bag in which he picked up. Did not sound like a purposeful event. Okay, so spiders dont drop leather gloves, but up until recently, snakes did not drop rare books, fluffies did not know what NMT cloaks were, and several other creatures did not drop the loads of stuff they drop now. I am not taking sides, I dont know any of the people involved, but I do know stranger things have happened and this is beyond something to ruin one's reputation over, whether it be BruceMorrow's or your own. Needless to say, mistakes happen. If you can't kiss and make-up over this, then at least realize this is just a game.

 

 

Looks like things got inflamed a little too quickly there. I wasn't there to see, but from the posts it wasn't *clear* that BruceMorrow was aware he(?) was being address until *after* he had been accused! He then got angry at accusation but *did* offer stuff back. Bagjumpers just say no.

 

The whole thing appears to have escalated because Lov42 thought she had BruceMorrow's attention while he was largely AFK. So I think this falls under the category of mutual misundertsanding.

 

Please "kiss and make-up" (thnx Skullsyk...I think..)

 

i completly agree with both of them, when he tried offering them back u still went on about him being a bag jumper and didnt say youd take them back, it would get quite annoying if i was in his shoes (im not taking sides either)

[sora_barzahd]

I don't feel sorry for Jerry since he's in outlaws now for stuff. Also, it seems like your dragging this on Lov42 by not accepting the stuff back when he was willing to give them to you. I'm supprised BruceMarrow didn't block and pk list you.

[The_Piper]

The funniest thing in this whole thread is still this:

 

 

[20:20:40] #GM from love42: its a great training place

[20:20:58] jerry1: wow nice place

[20:20:59] #GM from love42: once u can handle large spiders

[20:21:16] This death message is sponsored by jerry1

 

 

Maybe you must be me, to find it funny. But...

 

this whole mess because of..... LEATHER GLOVES?

 

Seriously..

 

Piper

[maximos]

brucemorrow said he was gonna give them back but you just ignored him and called him nuts etc

 

who is outlaw now? k?

[pook]

i want the gloves pookies

for a brod and and it s a deal :0

[Gohan]

Lov42, did someone mention yet you made a total fool out of yourself here? GG.

 

-Blee

[Terena]

I second that. Looks like someone overreacted at a simple misunderstanding. And generally, its considered bad form to post someone on outlaws if the incident was resolved in game.

[Happy_G]

The funniest thing in this whole thread is still this:

 

 

[20:20:40] #GM from love42: its a great training place

[20:20:58] jerry1: wow nice place

[20:20:59] #GM from love42: once u can handle large spiders

[20:21:16] This death message is sponsored by jerry1

 

 

Maybe you must be me, to find it funny. But...

 

this whole mess because of..... LEATHER GLOVES?

 

Seriously..

 

Piper

 

i agree thats the funniest 4 lines

 

and piper, its not the value of what was taken its the fact of the bag jump (this has nothing to do with bruce) if someone is going to bag jump so much as 1 flower that that person wants back then its still wrong, think about it, if a bagjumper is willing to cause a rukus over a flower they wont hesitate to steal something worth alot more than a flower. so its not the value of the item, just the principal of the thing

 

again this wasnt directed at bruce in anyway and does not mean that i think bruce is or is not a bag jumper just an explination of y leather gloves do matter.

[Kidberg]

The funniest thing in this whole thread is still this:

 

 

[20:20:40] #GM from love42: its a great training place

[20:20:58] jerry1: wow nice place

[20:20:59] #GM from love42: once u can handle large spiders

[20:21:16] This death message is sponsored by jerry1

 

 

Maybe you must be me, to find it funny. But...

 

this whole mess because of..... LEATHER GLOVES?

 

Seriously..

 

Piper

 

i agree thats the funniest 4 lines

 

and piper, its not the value of what was taken its the fact of the bag jump (this has nothing to do with bruce) if someone is going to bag jump so much as 1 flower that that person wants back then its still wrong, think about it, if a bagjumper is willing to cause a rukus over a flower they wont hesitate to steal something worth alot more than a flower. so its not the value of the item, just the principal of the thing

 

again this wasnt directed at bruce in anyway and does not mean that i think bruce is or is not a bag jumper just an explination of y leather gloves do matter.

Those lines are funny! Lol

[scarr]

easy to make 16 lvls in 5 days, hell i do it in 1 day :/

 

i remember enyo did from 3 a/d to 50s a/d in 1 week lol

[strider8]

LOL lov42 ur the nuts one omg my poor 20gc gloves are ruined im gonna go commit suicide.

[pook]

LOL lov42 ur the nuts one omg my poor 20gc gloves are ruined im gonna go commit suicide.

lmao

[Happy_G]

ok, like i said earlier it isnt the value of the gloves thats the issue....im not going to restate anymore from earlier and im still not taking sides but i think we should drop this now and not keep refreshing it. Love42 gets the point from whats already been posted lets just all let it go now.

[Infamous]

i want the gloves pookies

for a brod and and it s a deal :0

 

pff then i want 2 gloves ;p

[Knuckles]

\o/ @ this over gloves l0l