scarr Report post Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) i think equip should have some level requirment, xx attack level needed to hold a xxxxxx xx defend level needed to wear a xxxxxx this way noobs with 3a/d dont wear serp, i think its weird and there will be less Equipment ingame wihch make it expensiver i think ? now evry1 have same equip, and its boring, makes other weapons quite usuless also i think we need more diff weapons on the same level like a weapon simlair to a serp but maby with less damage and more acuration , so u have to choose a weapon insted of buying the best one from the market evryone look the same, its so boring Edited December 10, 2005 by scarr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted December 10, 2005 i think equip should have some level requirment, xx attack level needed to hold a xxxxxx xx defend level needed to wear a xxxxxx this way noobs with 3a/d dont wear serp, i think its weird and there will be less Equipment ingame wihch make it expensiver i think ? yes yes yes! I've said this sooo many times myself! (no this isn't a "you should have searched" comment ) It gives lower level players a goal to shoot for, it gives higher level players pride in accomplishment, and it just makes sense. I agree, there is nothing so silly as a newbie wearing plate to fight deer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted December 10, 2005 yer only problem is magic weapons. people bought them and cant use it then if to low lvl serp would need like 75-80 att Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted December 10, 2005 yer only problem is magic weapons. people bought them and cant use it then if to low lvl serp would need like 75-80 att Hmmm how many people buy them and actually use them? The only people I've seen actually use them (and I could be very well mistaken since I don't pk and avoid pk maps like the plague) is higher level players anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted December 10, 2005 How would this have less equipment in game and raise prices? I see it as lowering the demand some for the highest level equipment (lowering their prices if anything). It would increase the demand for med level equipment, but not enough to affect the prices since so many people can make them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) people wont make/buy what they dont need K maby it doesnt effect much in to economy, but i realy think there should be a lvl requirment Edited December 10, 2005 by scarr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion Report post Posted December 10, 2005 this is the second time i caught myself giving you the right in your idea i love it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDoctor Report post Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) yea i think this a good idea because when you see somebody with full plate its like meaningless, they could have bought it from the el store it doesn't mean they r good. if u make it like you need 50 defense to wear plate than if you see ppl in plate you will actually know they r skizzled Edited December 10, 2005 by TheDoctor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted December 10, 2005 70s for plate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDoctor Report post Posted December 10, 2005 70s for plate 50 for greaves, 60 for cuisses, 75 for iron plate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted December 10, 2005 yeh sounds fair ;p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sMooMs Report post Posted December 10, 2005 I agree on this idea, it should be inplented ages ago. When a noob create character and he play for a week he will find out so quick a serpent is the best weapon, he wil harv flowers and sell to get the sword, people dont care about other swords. Because having a steel two edged is so not cool right? You also see people with 20 a/d in full plate serp and mirror cloak standing at votd pretending to be a very rich and pro player ( show-off ). People will train hard because they really want to be able to use a better weapon/armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belali Report post Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) totally i agree Edited December 11, 2005 by belali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyWolf Report post Posted December 11, 2005 omg, pinch me...I agree with scarr...I was on IP just this morning collecting bunny furs (don't ask) and some guy with 25 health (checked stats and he had like 6/6 a/d) he was killing bunnies with a serp and in full plate..was just so funny.. I don't have really high stats, I do own a plate or two...but only used for formal reason's (weddings, aliance meetings) I just don't feel like I have a need to wear it....yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted December 11, 2005 lol is it so bad u have to agree with me ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anthropologist Report post Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) lol is it so bad u have to agree with me ? It just surprises people is all I like the idea as well, don't think the restriction should be based solely on a/d stats. The criteria suggusted here would exclude someonme like Lochnesslobster from wearing plate . perhaps some sort of overall criteria Edited December 11, 2005 by anthropologist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ttlanhil Report post Posted December 11, 2005 the problem is, how much less demand would there be for replacement parts if people can no longer use stuff waaay below their level? as I understand it, this is (one of) Entropy's obections to required levels. other than that I'd vastly prefer it... and in the long run so would the newbs who break their plate fighting rabbits and can't afford to replace it. personally, apart from sales, it wouldn't affect me... I still use steel chain and I fight trolls & ogres... with 100 SRs and no cooldown I would even be able to take out the toughened clopsen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshen Report post Posted December 12, 2005 i totally agree with this idea. It is very realistic because you need "practice" to get better at using weapons in real life so why not have level requirements for weapons in game that way you could also see if someones wearing a serp then stay away from then coz chance are they are at a certain level to wear it. this sugegstion has been talked about lots in pk maps and when epople are training im glad scarr put it on the forums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenGanjaKing Report post Posted December 12, 2005 lol is it so bad u have to agree with me ? not bad but more or less creepy ....it is a good idea, but would be more effective when/if there is a wider selection of weapons and armor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LemonStar Report post Posted December 12, 2005 Sounds like a grand plan to me. People should have to work for and earn what weapons and armour they wear. the problem is, how much less demand would there be for replacement parts if people can no longer use stuff waaay below their level? as I understand it, this is (one of) Entropy's obections to required levels. What do you mean they can't use smaller stuff.. If you can use a full plate and tit serp, surely you can use leather and a iron sword? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ttlanhil Report post Posted December 12, 2005 (edited) the problem is, how much less demand would there be for replacement parts if people can no longer use stuff waaay below their level? as I understand it, this is (one of) Entropy's obections to required levels. What do you mean they can't use smaller stuff.. If you can use a full plate and tit serp, surely you can use leather and a iron sword? if you save up for a few weeks, buy plate, and are using it waaay below the appropriate level... it's more likely to break (as I understand it). hence there's more market for replacement equipment. if you require people to be sensible about what they buy, less breakages, less replacements (but regular upgrades) Edited December 12, 2005 by ttlanhil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted December 12, 2005 I've been saying this very suggestion for a very long time. Don't think its gonna happen though :-\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ttlanhil Report post Posted December 12, 2005 (edited) I've been saying this very suggestion for a very long time. Don't think its gonna happen though :-\ quite a few people have been pushing for this for a long time without much luck Edited December 12, 2005 by ttlanhil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperion Report post Posted December 12, 2005 I've been saying this very suggestion for a very long time. Don't think its gonna happen though :-\ quite a few people have been pushing for this for a long time without much luck yup, ive suggested this before to was like a year ago or so. maybe ent should consider it again since a lot of ppl actually would prefer this. ok ok i know its ent who decideds and he well they say he doesn't listen to us but somewhere i think he does and if you ask me he knows as well as we do that theres a reason for ppl who keep asking for this option... just one simple question and i would like entropy to explain why... tell me in detail WHY you did not choose to have this function? maybe if you give good arguments players will agree on it and MAYBE they will stop asking Hype P.S he prolly doesn't have time for this but hey its worth the try Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brom Report post Posted December 12, 2005 I've been saying this very suggestion for a very long time. Don't think its gonna happen though :-\ Dare I ask!? Yep. Why will it not happen? I have been all for it for some time. I think if we were to make a poll greater than 3/4ths of EL would want this to go into place. of course they will complain about the level limits but thats just complaining and it can be dealt with. ::Crosses his fingers in hope. I am not high level at all, but I think when setting requirements for armor/weapons/amulets and the like we need to take into account that more and stronger items are going to be added later, so Iron Plate armour will not be the highest setting. Perhaps Titanium plate would be the highest whenever it is/might be created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites