warmastermage Report post Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) I dont really get joker, he looks like a regular person and doest look funny at all and gives away worthless random stuff. I have come up with some suggestions to improve joker. When you see joker, he is a barrel with a clown face on it. You click on the barrel and a green gnome jumps out and hands you a mysterious potion. You drink the potion and gives you some random effects(of course you dont know the effect untill you drink it so you dont know whether is a postitive effect or a negative one. Positive Effects Exp Potion: gives random amount of exp to a random skill exp is 500-5000 exp Pick Potion: gives you a pick point Teleport Potion: Teleports you teleport room 5 uses Haul Potion: Adds 10 emu to your carry cappacity Perk Potion: Gives you a random positive perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk counts) Negative Effects Poisoned potion: Poisons You Twice the effect of snake bite Death Potion:Kills you right away like regular death Heavy loss potion: Kills you and you lose ALL your items Neg Perk Potion: Curses you with a neg perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk doesnt count) Load Potion: Temporarily decreases your max emu by half for 6 ingame ours(afk doesnt count) Anti Teleport Potion: You cant use teleport rings, spells or use the beam command. Also cant use ships. This will add some excitement to the bland boring jokers. Edit: I edited my post so that the penalties of the load and anti-teleport potions are more severe. Edited October 16, 2005 by warmastermage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roren Report post Posted October 16, 2005 Yeah, I like these ideas. I was really dissapointed the first time I found joker, and all I got was a loaf of bread <_< . But, the anti-teleport potion and load potions really wont do much to you. I for one, have never even used a teleport ring, and I rarely carry all 320 emus i can carry, usually about 20-30 less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acelon Report post Posted October 16, 2005 Interesting ideas, I like em. I'll see if its possible to work a version of it in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atreyu Report post Posted October 16, 2005 I always imagined joker as a court jester. You know, colourful clothes and those hats with the bells on the spikes... Then I found him and my heart broke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkc56 Report post Posted October 16, 2005 I kind of like the idea, but, given that it's hard to find him in the first place, I think he should give out only positive things. I'd probably skip him all together if there was a chance of getting anything negative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caulm Report post Posted October 16, 2005 i agree there shouldnt be anything else thats bad. There should be ome posittive things.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dunian Report post Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) Maybe the prizes could be improved a tad, since hes harder to find now. But I don't think he should give out anything negative, otherwise he wouldn't be worth looking for. Dunian :battleaxe: Edited October 16, 2005 by Dunian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acelon Report post Posted October 16, 2005 Maybe the prizes could be improved a tad, since hes harder to find now. But I don't think he should give out anything negative, otherwise he wouldn't be worth looking for. Dunian :battleaxe: 209922[/snapback] Prizes are being worked on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) and giving pickpoints/emu is bad and unfair well, or let the joker give evryone 5 PP's max. and 100 Emu max. Shivar found Joker and got 1/5 Pickpoint(s) ! Edited October 16, 2005 by Shivar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derin Report post Posted October 16, 2005 I like the idea of having more variety to the Joker prizes, but also remember that the Joker is more of a fun thing, than something genuinely useful. Positive Effects Exp Potion: gives random amount of exp to a random skill exp is 500-5000 exp Pick Potion: gives you a pick point Teleport Potion: Teleports you teleport room 5 uses Haul Potion: Adds 10 emu to your carry cappacity Perk Potion: Gives you a random positive perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk counts) Negative Effects Poisoned potion: Poisons You Twice the effect of snake bite Death Potion:Kills you right away like regular death Heavy loss potion: Kills you and you lose ALL your items Neg Perk Potion: Curses you with a neg perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk doesnt count) Load Potion: Temporarily decreases your max emu by half for 6 ingame ours(afk doesnt count) Anti Teleport Potion: You cant use teleport rings, spells or use the beam command. Also cant use ships. A few comments: Exp Potion: gives random amount of exp to a random skill exp is 500-5000 exp Could work if the xp amount is in the lower range Pick Potion: gives you a pick point This is a bad idea, pickpoints should not be given, nor attributes. Teleport Potion: Teleports you teleport room 5 uses Maybe a scroll (or potion) with one use, not 5 Haul Potion: Adds 10 emu to your carry capacity In any case this should be timed, like: adds 10 emu for 1 hour, non-cumulative. Perk Potion: Gives you a random positive perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk counts) This afk-thing is hard to determine, and the time frame should be more like 1 hour, not more For all the negative potions/effects The Joker in itself is sort of a perk, you are lucky to find him, his reward(s) should not be negative. There is no need to constantly seek to balance things out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warmastermage Report post Posted October 16, 2005 (edited) I like the idea of having more variety to the Joker prizes, but also remember that the Joker is more of a fun thing, than something genuinely useful. Positive Effects Exp Potion: gives random amount of exp to a random skill exp is 500-5000 exp Pick Potion: gives you a pick point Teleport Potion: Teleports you teleport room 5 uses Haul Potion: Adds 10 emu to your carry cappacity Perk Potion: Gives you a random positive perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk counts) Negative Effects Poisoned potion: Poisons You Twice the effect of snake bite Death Potion:Kills you right away like regular death Heavy loss potion: Kills you and you lose ALL your items Neg Perk Potion: Curses you with a neg perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk doesnt count) Load Potion: Temporarily decreases your max emu by half for 6 ingame ours(afk doesnt count) Anti Teleport Potion: You cant use teleport rings, spells or use the beam command. Also cant use ships. A few comments: Exp Potion: gives random amount of exp to a random skill exp is 500-5000 exp Could work if the xp amount is in the lower range Pick Potion: gives you a pick point This is a bad idea, pickpoints should not be given, nor attributes. Teleport Potion: Teleports you teleport room 5 uses Maybe a scroll (or potion) with one use, not 5 Haul Potion: Adds 10 emu to your carry capacity In any case this should be timed, like: adds 10 emu for 1 hour, non-cumulative. Perk Potion: Gives you a random positive perk for 1-6 ingame hours(afk counts) This afk-thing is hard to determine, and the time frame should be more like 1 hour, not more For all the negative potions/effects The Joker in itself is sort of a perk, you are lucky to find him, his reward(s) should not be negative. There is no need to constantly seek to balance things out. 209966[/snapback] Maybe there shouldnt be neg effects how about Exp potion= 50-500 exp? Haul potion gives 100 emu to carry cappacity for 1 hour no Pick Potion To replace pick potion Skill increase potion Increases a random skill by 10lvs for 1 ingame hour Funny Potion Makes you look like joker for 1 ingame hour Edited October 16, 2005 by warmastermage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stardark Report post Posted October 16, 2005 Funny PotionMakes you look like joker for 1 ingame hour 210039[/snapback] That's worthless, it is maybe funny, but you can't do things with it! So, than you found the joker only for a weird 1 hour skin... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted October 16, 2005 I always imagined joker as a court jester. You know, colourful clothes and those hats with the bells on the spikes... Then I found him and my heart broke. 209906[/snapback] I'm not sure what I expected but certainly not what he is! But yeah, it was a huge letdown to finally see him. I think he needs a makeover as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Mind Report post Posted October 16, 2005 I realize that no one has any incentive to search for the joker right now. I am wondering how many people would start exploring when they see a message "<insert name here> found the joker and got a steel two edge of ice" instead of his current crappy prizes. Of course, you would want a low chance of having good prizes, but at least have SOME! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warmastermage Report post Posted October 16, 2005 Joker simply handing you an item seem very boring. There should be like a little game that he plays in order to get the the item to make it seem more Jokerish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshen Report post Posted October 17, 2005 a pickpoint to me right now is worth around 3.5 million experience points. NO WAY should pickpoint be just given out for finding joker. Its totally unfair. thats my 2 cents worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warmastermage Report post Posted October 17, 2005 a pickpoint to me right now is worth around 3.5 million experience points. NO WAY should pickpoint be just given out for finding joker. Its totally unfair. thats my 2 cents worth. 210240[/snapback] When you start the game or when you reset you can get like 5 pickpoints in a minute and no one has reached a level where they need 3.5million exp to increase oa lv (I think) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted October 17, 2005 Yeah, all suggestions, seems cool. I remember my 2 first jokers i got a few gold coins and a bread. These days i got a steel shiel, not wonderful, but at least useful. It would be cool a Joker with joker cloathes and look. When you start the game or when you reset you can get like 5 pickpoints in a minute and no one has reached a level where they need 3.5million exp to increase oa lv (I think) 210243[/snapback] After lvl 110 oa, you need 3.5million exp to lvl up. In the top 50 page there are 9 people on those conditions. Pickpoints start to get rare after lvl 50 so its really unfair to joker give one for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites