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Those are facts. You could stop repeating things you don't understand. And stop saying "we", your country isn't more democratic than mine.

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Right.. right, right, things I don't understand. I suppose Tiananmen Square rings a bell doesn't it? What were they attacked for, Mireille? Selling cookies door to door? :D

 

You have an odd habit of trolling threads that have anything to do w/ the US in them. Very unproductive figure of society, you are. ^_^ Anyhow, arguing politics always leads to dead ends. I'm already out of this one. :P Bad case of forum trolling here.

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Right.. right, right, things I don't understand.  I suppose Tiananmen Square rings a bell doesn't it?  What were they attacked for, Mireille?  Selling cookies door to door?  :D

 

 

What the hell are you talking about?

 

You have an odd habit of trolling threads that have anything to do w/ the US in them.  Very unproductive figure of society, you are.  ^_^ Anyhow, arguing politics always leads to dead ends.  I'm already out of this one.  :P  Bad case of forum trolling here.

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And replying to me each time you disagree naturally doesn't make you a troll. Don't you have ANY self-criticism left? Grow up.

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hey watch the flamin people. ok and you so called americans (im one) arent really americans. you were just born in america, what have you done to contribute to what america is? and i know other counrties dont like us, its not they are jealous, its that we are obnoxious and conceited. we give grain to starving countries, but as the richest nation in the world we let them get that way. so you cant say we are helping them, if we were helping them they wouldnt be starving to begin with. and its not like grain is all that good anyway. im sure bill gates could feed an entire starving nation, he could buy them 3 course meals. so dont go around saying "im an american and all other countries hate us just because we are better than them" they hate us for a dang good reason.. we are (explicative deleted)!

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Actually I'm pretty sure all I have to do to be an American is be born in America. I contribute to the country by attending school and furthering my education so that I can be a productive adult who contributes to the society and to the economy. You don't have to save the world to be an American.

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Actually I'm pretty sure all I have to do to be an American is be born in America. I contribute to the country by attending school and furthering my education so that I can be a productive adult who contributes to the society and to the economy. You don't have to save the world to be an American.

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Aren't all Americans supposed to run around in blue and red unitards with a big S on the chest?

 

...So that's why they threw me into a correctional center...

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just because youre born in america doesnt mean youre better than everyone else like americans tend to believe. and if you think youll be a productive member of society, we'll just see about that.. cuz i dont know a single productive member of society. most americans think they are better than everyone else and they take what they have for granted.. live in any other country for a few years and youll see what it is to be an american.

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first of all would everyone please stop calling it america? the country in question is the United States of America. america consists of many different areas and countries including canada and mexico...countries that im not all that sure want to be thrown into the frying pan along with U.S. (pun intended)

communism in theory is probably one of the best governments but the problem is bringing it into the real world. whoever thought of it forgot the free will factor.

 

 

 

Woot! member # post! :confused:

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communism in theory is probably one of the best governments but the problem is bringing it into the real world. whoever thought of it forgot the free will factor.

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Remember that marxism and leninism are different things... What Lenin thought would be a complete heresy to Marx. :confused: "Communism" remains an ideal, it has never existed in the same way a perfect, pure "democracy" never existed. We can only compare what really DID happen and, well, "real democracy" did better than "real communism" (or socialism or w/e).

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just because youre born in america doesnt mean youre better than everyone else like americans tend to believe. and if you think youll be a productive member of society, we'll just see about that.. cuz i dont know a single productive member of society. most americans think they are better than everyone else and they take what they have for granted.. live in any other country for a few years and youll see what it is to be an american.

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I get it. You hate America.

 

But seriously... don't throw all Americans into one category. I didn't ever state that I was better than anyone else just because I'm American. On the contrary, I'm better than everyone else because I just rock that damn much. It has nothing to do with my birth country. Plenty of Americans are productive members of society. They go to work; they abide by the laws (for the most part, a little marijuana now and then never hurt anyone); they try to help others. A lot of people not just in America take what they have for granted. It's human nature to do so. I've never actually been outside of the United States, but I've had friends who have. One such friend lived in Egypt for a few years, and somehow we share similar ideas to "what it is to be an American." Going to another country might give one some perspective, but looking around and observing careful will give the same perspective.

 

... Kidding about the marijuana thing. I don't do drugs.

 

 

Dragburn... it's commonly accepted that "Americans" refers to the citizens of the United States. Canadians and Mexicans have their own names, so I don't think they're really too shook up over us using the term "Americans."

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no not all americans.. but to be completely honest... no1s as good and nice as you said. christians are supposed to be but they are major hypocrits.

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Anastasia while it may be generally accepted it is incorrect. we are the united states not america. america is a continental name i.e. north america and south america which are both continents. by saying that we are americans (allthough it is a true statement) it generalizes the rest of the americas to the outside world. i also share the idea that the mexicans and canadians arent really shook up about our bastardization of the word but we must not generalize and say all of them are completely fine with it. while 90% of the people in the united states lack frontal lobe i am not entirely sure of the rest of the world. i like to give the benefit of the doubt when i havent had to oppurtunity to form a conviction. but if the overseas and non U.S.A. citezens on the EL forums is considered a good sampling then i would have to say that the rest of the world is rather intelligent and the problem with the world resides within 90% of the U.S. population. but having said that it isnt a good sampling since most of the players that i have met or had any dealings with were rather intelligent so that coclusion would be incorrect due to biased information.

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Anastasia while it may be generally accepted it is incorrect. we are the united states not america. america is a continental name i.e. north america and south america which are both continents. by saying that we are americans (allthough it is a true statement) it generalizes the rest of the americas to the outside world. i also share the idea that the mexicans and canadians arent really shook up about our bastardization of the word but we must not generalize and say all of them are completely fine with it.

 

Actually we're called Americans because our country is called the United States of America. It's not incorrect. I'm not going to refer to myself as a "citizen of the United States" every time I want to refer to myself based on my country. Most people around the globe see the term "Americans" as "citizens of the United States." So I don't really give a rat's ass if a few people are upset with the use of the word "American." I mean... if I wanted to talk about everyone on North America I would say "North Americans," and I would say "South Americans" for South America. I would just say "North and South Americans" if I wanted to talk about both. As would most other people.

 

In short:

American = Citizen of the United States

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Anastasia while it may be generally accepted it is incorrect. we are the united states not america. america is a continental name i.e. north america and south america which are both continents. by saying that we are americans (allthough it is a true statement) it generalizes the rest of the americas to the outside world. i also share the idea that the mexicans and canadians arent really shook up about our bastardization of the word but we must not generalize and say all of them are completely fine with it.

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Actually we're called Americans because our country is called the United States of America. It's not incorrect. I'm not going to refer to myself as a "citizen of the United States" every time I want to refer to myself based on my country. Most people around the globe see the term "Americans" as "citizens of the United States." So I don't really give a rat's ass if a few people are upset with the use of the word "American." I mean... if I wanted to talk about everyone on North America I would say "North Americans," and I would say "South Americans" for South America. I would just say "North and South Americans" if I wanted to talk about both. As would most other people.

 

In short:

American = Citizen of the United States

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just wondering...did you ignore that sentence? just letting you know i allready determined that calling ourselves americans would be in fact correct. my only problem with the term is that it came about from ignorance. before that we were referred to by the term "Yankee" or "Yanks".

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The rest of the world does not see everybody in Canada and Mexico in the light they see Americans in. That's what I was trying to say.

 

And the term didn't come about from ignorance.

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Right im gonna need proof of that one.

1. Sent billions in aid to african aids campaigns.

2. Whether you believe in a global terror network or not his efforts have saved thousands, if not millions of lives.

3. He kept liberia out of civil war by sending a platoon of marines to intervene, I mean the place was a civil rights nightmare that noone but bush volunteered to clean up.

4. He crippled the taliban terrorist network, who is not just responsible for crimes against the united states but many other countries, including communist china.

5. He destroyed the Hussein administration and installed a democratic govt in Iraq. And I know from a plausible source (my recruiter) that there is less conflict in iraq then the media want's you to believe, I have spoken with soldiers who went there, and they all said that the citizens are GRATEFULL not filled with hatred like everyone thinks. I even saw pictures of little kids hugging the soldiers, and parents crying in joy... yeah that sounds like hate to me. And I fully plan to serve my time in iraq when they send me there.

6. He spoke out against Trent Lott's divisive Thurmond comment.

7. He is the only president who Openly has allowed stem cell research to be done, this may nt sit well with some people but it allows for the discovery of cures for hundreds of diseases.

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Yay i can still rant on el :P

let see here,

1.Billions of our money. Why does The United States of America â„¢ think that it is the world's police? We dont need to send other countries money, Fuck we hardly have enough for ourselves, while americans die every day im sure glad I saved some little shit in another country that will grow up to hate me because of what my country did in bringing "democracy" to their country, see military troops imposing OUR form of government on them, who the hell said ours is right anyway? we hate communists so much yet we spread out beliefs just as they did, and our ancestors did in the crusades so long ago.

 

2. oh yes. maybe the report "BIN LADEN PLANS TO ATTACK WTC ON SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001" was a bit too vague.

 

3. Wars and Revolutions happen for a reason. What if we helped the wrong side and ended up letting evil win. No one can see the future(but me. :cry: ), but damn think about this; what if during the war for america's independence, other countries interfered? we would be toast. because america only won because we used inovative war tactics, (aka not standing in lines) if they had much more people it wouldnt have mattered."Clean Up"??!?! WTF DO YOU THINK THIS IS, HOUSEWORK? These are people you are talking about fuck, we came in there and did what we always did, imposed OUR system of beliefs upon them regardless of their wants or needs. Exactly when did The Lord tell us that our way was right? In fact it totally isnt, Jesus teaches to love each other and spread the word peacefully and live peacefully, Not force others.

and yes I said jesus and The Lord. To Hell with Political Correctness, I am not going to care about what anyone else's religion is, because if they don't like it, ignore it you babies.

 

4.More like he made the taliban a media scapegoat. most of the members left and joined other Terroristâ„¢ organizations im sure. Then again so many people hate the US now its just a matter of time before they make us their scape goat.

 

5.Yellow. Journalisim. Please like they didnt get people to pose for that shit, it annoys me at people's blind loyalty to bush at times. Bush went to war with iraq NOT,

for WMDâ„¢ because, there wasn't any.

Bush did go to war with iraq because,

1.His father had a little encounter with mr. hussain in his term, and don't think for a second that didn't rub off on bush after his father tried and failed to do away with him.

2.oil. stfu and learn, the world lives by the imagined value of a substance, gold is a perfect example really, I think its an ugly metal and I don't see how it can really be valued. Oh, your army recruiter told you that did he? Im sure no one above him told him to say that, because I'VE NEVER SEEN THE MILITARY LIE. OMG. :huh:

 

6. Who the hell cares? Not Only have I not heard about that, it also seems retarded because someone felt the need to pull out a dictionary to make that sentence.

 

7. Probably because , oh I dunno.. Maybe because stem cell research is a very new technology? You make it sound like It has been around for a long time.

this may nt sit well with some people but it allows for the discovery of cures for hundreds of diseases.

There are so many things wrong in that sentence, even excluding grammar.

First off, Stem Cells are there for a reason, to be used in the creation in a child, not to be used for scientific experiments. No this is not all I have because that comment alone is pretty weak ;). Disease, War, and Greed are there for a reason, not only because two of those are entirely man's fault, but because of the (yes sad) benefit they have.

Ok, let's say we now have a world free of disease, hunger, and strife. What happens next? Let's assume we don't blow ourselves up for the hell of it shall we? Not only will people live MUCH MUCH longer, maybe into 150's and on (hey no disease, no wars to cause emotional chaos procuring short life) What Do We Have?

Over Population

yes. overpopulation, the earth is only so big and without anything to stop a species from growing it WILL grow at an extremly fast rate, anyone who remembers high school biology knows this, for those that don't, I don't have time to explain it.

Then what? People will all starve and die, disease will come from dead corpses, man will strike another man for food or money to get food or other freedoms.

Then war, disease, and strife return.

You CAN NOT (emphasis on NOT) EVER Eliminate them. EVER. They are basic components of the human character and CAN NOT BE REMOVED.

So that being said, researching stem cells to prevent or kill disease is a waste of time.

 

Besides, Everyone Will Die anyway,

Just a matter of time.

Time.. that's what it all comes down too.. what it all needs and revolves around..

without time there is nothing. No-

(time stops)

If only it ended like that, I wish it would. Suddenly Stop. Nothing going wrong anymore, everyone instantly free of burdens and sent to heaven, and wrongdoers sent to the pit..

The apocolypse will be the happiest moment in everyone's life once they understand.

:hug:

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frinkin a i hate politics....

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You may think you hate politics and you are not interested in it, but politics will NEVER stop being interested in YOU. Hating politics is the best reason to study it - as an ancient principle says: know your enemy.

 

And besides, personally, I can't imagine living in a world which I at least don't TRY to understand (if I'm unable to understand it completely).

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Yay i can still rant on el :confused:

let see here,

1.Billions of our money. Why does The United States of America â„¢ think that it is the world's police? We dont need to send other countries money, Fuck we hardly have enough for ourselves, while americans die every day im sure glad I saved some little shit in another country that will grow up to hate me because of what my country did in bringing "democracy" to their country, see military troops imposing OUR form of government on them, who the hell said ours is right anyway? we hate communists so much yet we spread out beliefs just as they did, and our ancestors did in the crusades so long ago.

 

 

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I feel the same damn way on this one there are countries that have a hell of alot more money than us why not jsut sit back and wait for them to help, i mean come on nobody gives us any damn money when a hurricane hits but we spend millions helping small little islands that nobodies ever heard of.

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I find it amusing that I have no posted in this topic for over a week and people are still picking apart my words and stepping on them :P

 

You may think you hate politics and you are not interested in it, but politics will NEVER stop being interested in YOU. Hating politics is the best reason to study it - as an ancient principle says: know your enemy

 

Fucking incredible I actually agree with him for once.

 

And rebootedrock, while I agree with you on certain points especially number 1. I do not agree with 3 at all. We did not side with anyone we convinved both sides not to fight. While yes in the end we would have had to join on side or another, it never came to that. As far as my gr4m3r sftu u fr00b! O/\/\G! L1k3 bed greemer wint allew m to steel mke my point. :confused:

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I didn't ever state that I was better than anyone else just because I'm American. On the contrary, I'm better than everyone else because I just rock that damn much.

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Marry me, Ana.

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I find it amusing that I have no posted in this topic for over a week and people are still picking apart my words and stepping on them  :P

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I find it amusing that you continue to post when your signature clearly states you do not.

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we came in there and did what we always did, imposed OUR system of beliefs upon them regardless of their wants or needs

 

i agree 3,000,000,000%

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Here's a quote from one of the most popular Dj groups round:

 

There's not enough love in the world at the moment

 

Everything has become politics. Too much greed, not enough people doing what they're suppose to do. People getting stripped from their responcibilities.

Got nothing else to say.

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