shenriss Report post Posted June 28, 2005 I think it's possible some ever suggest it but i can't find a topic: I think it could be very useful when you go to storage, can have choice to yours or guild storage for exemple need guild rank 5 for can deposit and rank 10 for can withdraw. i think it can help for friendly work and the best is alwed you trade with your storage and guild storage in a same time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ttlanhil Report post Posted June 28, 2005 similar ideas have come up, go search: +guild +storage some guilds have a bot to do this currently, having it work as a common area/storage for the guild would work nicer though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crannog Report post Posted June 28, 2005 This would be a nice addition, at the moment, there are no real "game" perks for being in a guild...and spending the 30k on it. bots that have storage access!!!...well, i am quite sure many ppl cant afford that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shenriss Report post Posted June 28, 2005 yes crannog that why i ask it thanks for answer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trollson Report post Posted June 28, 2005 Guild storage would have to solve the problem of concurrent access. Either by limiting access to one character at a time (need different interface to per-character storage), or some lower level locking of transactions. Not trivial, but not impossible to coordinate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sMooMs Report post Posted June 28, 2005 I dont see the point? why need a guild storage i think it's good how it's now :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shenriss Report post Posted June 28, 2005 for group work it can be good and for free stuff for guild members... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NitageR Report post Posted June 28, 2005 I dont see the point? why need a guild storage i think it's good how it's now :/ 174856[/snapback] It is cool now i see no reason to change it =/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cajs Report post Posted June 29, 2005 well apparently those who say there is absolutly no need for guild storages have never tried to run a quest/contest with whole guild taking part in it. A guild storage would make it much more easier to collect all prizes in one place and actualy would allow anyone to store whatever they cna spare for prizes in it so looking for prizes for next contest would be as simple as doing storage listing. On the other hand it would probably take quitea bit of programming on the server side and an interface update on client side to implement so unfortunatly I don't see it being put in any time soon ~C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brom Report post Posted June 29, 2005 The Idea is good, but there are many things that should be added first before guild storage... IE: Guild wars, and many more Guild features. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trollson Report post Posted July 17, 2005 The Idea is good, but there are many things that should be added first before guild storage... IE: Guild wars, and many more Guild features. 175309[/snapback] But Guild Storage would be relatively easy to implement, especially since there are changes to the Storage interface in the works. (This subject has just come up in-game) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) Have to agree that being in guild does not bring you many advanteges (except having friends). Guild system requires lots of changes, one of them could be guild storage. The others are needed to manage the guild (removing non active players while they're no online etc.). I see one problem here, what about people who already pay for having storage bot? Vanyel Edited July 26, 2005 by vanyel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trollson Report post Posted July 18, 2005 I see one problem here, what about people who already pay for having storagce bot?Vanyel 181216[/snapback] Agreed. So if Guild Storage where implemented what additiona advantages do the bots provide? Do we need to add some more priviledges to them (what they are allowed to do) to justify their cost? A few off-top-of-head remaining advantages of a bot: Can carry things that cannot be put into storage (eg Food). Can be located somewhere more conventient (near resources?). The guild can apply their own control on access etc. Guild storage would only available to guild members. Could implement additional functionality in the bot; auto healing members in range? (legal?). An alternative to Guild Storage (or addition) would be the ability to drop things in adjacent bags ("use item(s) on bag"). You couldn't take things out of an adjacent bag, but it may help guard against bag jumping -- line of workers, each with a bag, and a foreman periodically dropping ingredients into their bags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wytter Report post Posted July 18, 2005 I have been thinking about adding the guild storage as well - the code has been prepared for it, but I am not sure... There will be a lot of complaints about guild members stealing items, and even though you may say it's lame to complain about that (at least I think so), then we will be put to blame, and be asked to replace the items again and again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shenriss Report post Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) I have been thinking about adding the guild storage as well - the code has been prepared for it, but I am not sure... There will be a lot of complaints about guild members stealing items, and even though you may say it's lame to complain about that (at least I think so), then we will be put to blame, and be asked to replace the items again and again. 181272[/snapback] that's why i spoke about use guild rank for allwed who can deposit and who can withdrow exemple rank 5 for deposit and 10 for withdraw Edited July 18, 2005 by shenriss Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trollson Report post Posted July 18, 2005 exemple rank 5 for deposit and 10 for withdraw 181273[/snapback] If this is applied, then whatever guild levels are chosen should be announced well in advance. It may be necessary for Guild Masters to review the levels of their members. I would have thought that any member should be able to deposite more of an item which is already in the guild storage. The 'rank-5' priviledge would then be to deposite into empty slots (prevent or reduce disgruntled members spamming their guilds storage slots). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravito Report post Posted July 19, 2005 There will be a lot of complaints about guild members stealing items, and even though you may say it's lame to complain about that (at least I think so), then we will be put to blame, and be asked to replace the items again and again. 181272[/snapback] Why not just add a log for all in guild to access that contain what was deposed or withdrawn by who and when... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted July 26, 2005 I have been thinking about adding the guild storage as well - the code has been prepared for it, but I am not sure... There will be a lot of complaints about guild members stealing items, and even though you may say it's lame to complain about that (at least I think so), then we will be put to blame, and be asked to replace the items again and again. 181272[/snapback] Well, guild storage is would be very big adventage. The risk of being stolen by members is good balance here. For small guilds, like mine, it wouldn't be problem, since we know all members. In big guilds, there is many of them this problem would much bigger. I don't see the means to control all members. Nevertheless I think that having guild storage, with some restrictions would be amazing. Implementing it would mean giving paid bot new abilities/features. The players who spent their rl money for it can't lose their money. vanyel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breik Report post Posted July 27, 2005 I figure having a minimum guild rank to access storage would help prevent stealing from guild storage. While some guilds have a lot of members, responsible guilds don't have too many high ranking members. It seems to me that rank 6 should be enouph to access guild storage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirOswald Report post Posted July 27, 2005 It seems to me that there would just be too many conflicts... Also, there would not be enough practical usage for it at the moment. *dodges tomatoes* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trollson Report post Posted July 28, 2005 Also, there would not be enough practical usage for it at the moment. 183392[/snapback] Except for Guilds who do Alchemy, Harvesting, Manufacture, Crafting... Summary of the best bits: Guild storage option added with the new storage interface. Minimum Guild rank to list, deposits (existing), deposits (new type), and withdrawals. Ranks should be published well in advance of the change to allow Guild Masters to reappraise their rankings. Log all deposits and withdrawals on #GM. Guild Messenger bots could be modified to save and publish these accounts. Log when, who, what, where, and how much. For withdrawals, some synchronisation is necessary to prevent multiple characters withdrawing the same item(s) at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch Report post Posted June 30, 2006 I thought of the guild storage and was glad to see it was already discussed. It has been awhile since it has been discussed and I was wondering if there was a decision made that yes it will happen, just a matter of time or no, it is not going to happen. Either way, can I create a character for the sole purpose of being a war chest for my guild? I would delete it if the guild storage was created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ttlanhil Report post Posted June 30, 2006 Either way, can I create a character for the sole purpose of being a war chest for my guild?I beleive so, but that's not official from me.it's important to note that if it's going to be done as a bot, that'd count as trading, hence it's a paid bot... and if not a bot, then you need to be well aware of the multi-play issues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Borin_Ironfist Report post Posted July 1, 2006 I dont see the point? why need a guild storage i think it's good how it's now :/ yeah and this could cause some problems some1 goes in gets higher ranks then takes all the guilds stuff and quits and does it again it would be really bad Bear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scratch Report post Posted July 1, 2006 I beleive so, but that's not official from me. it's important to note that if it's going to be done as a bot, that'd count as trading, hence it's a paid bot... and if not a bot, then you need to be well aware of the multi-play issues Just a character to keep guild treasure seperate from mine. Don't want the guild mates mixing their bloody bunny bones with my nice clean goblin bones. If I make a guild map, I would turn the storage character into a guard bot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
