Roja Report post Posted February 23, 2005 READ THIS POST BEFORE MAKING A DECISION!!!! Also read Rule #12 before making a post. Random spawns -meaning a creature can spawn ANYWHERE in 1 map. There are no set spawn points as there are now. Pros: -no more afk fighting -fighting becomes more of a challenge -no more fighting over spawn points -we will place a lot more monsters on the maps to make up for it -we can possibly implement a new skill or features- tracking & trapping Cons: -creatures won't be as easy to find, so you have to work more -won't be as easy to gain exp -bad for powerplayers Edit: here are some point responses I've made to people's inquires: -You guys also have to think that eventually there's going to be a TON more monsters. At least 1 monster for every 2 levels. -We can still have some monsters with a set spawn area. The gargoyles can be one of them. Some will have spawn areas-but the vast majority will not, and of course it also depends on the map. Like some maps gargoyles might spawn randomly, some others they might not. -The monsters will still stay on the maps they have always been on, this is not random spawns throughout the game, only inside each map. -If possible i'd also like to give better AI to the creatures, and making herds would be cool...but also, if a goblin is attacked(or another monster), they will call out for reinforcements to come help them > Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Yes! Definately. It would not only add more diversity and enjoyment to the game, but things would be EVEN more interesting. And the pros HEAVILY outweigh the cons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman_Omega Report post Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) Well, I say Do It and just not give anyone a choice, you never gave the harvesters a choice on the mother nature thing or cut harvesting speeds, so maybe just make the spawns everywhere. I'd like to see it. EDIT: didn't mean to be rude, just never saw a choice for the harvesters. I would like to see the random spawns, it would make the game ALOT more fun Edited February 23, 2005 by Starman_Omega Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirdan Report post Posted February 23, 2005 it would be way more realistic with many spawns randomly placed and you could actualy maybe get attacked by 3 monsters! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Report post Posted February 23, 2005 I was thinking about starting to fight more. Bring it on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azazel Report post Posted February 23, 2005 I voted for bigger spawn areas, it's a balanced option. the idea of random spawns is interesting, but with all those cons i'm not sure if it's worth it. btw: you forgot about one more cons: - more random spawns on map = more creatures wandering around = more danger for weaker players I suggest implementing it on test server first and letting players to check it and then cast their votes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) I suggest implementing it on test server first and letting players to check it and then cast their votes Thats what always happens I think IP should be exempt, Azazel has made a good point. Otherwise, this would add an extremely diverse feature to the game. PLEASE vote yes! (EDIT: Typo) Edited February 23, 2005 by Placid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stormbringer Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Definately. I'm not really a fighter, but i do intend to level up fighting skills at some point. I dont fight anything but wolves at the moment, and the whole standing around the wolf spawn in VOTD and arguing over wolves is just dumb. Everything about EL is based on trying to create a more realistic world and this is another step towards it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lachesis Report post Posted February 23, 2005 What would that mean for the Gargoyles in WS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Well, we can still have some monsters with a set spawn area. The gargoyles can be one of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted February 23, 2005 btw: you forgot about one more cons:- more random spawns on map = more creatures wandering around = more danger for weaker players Well a little bit, yes, but that adds to the excitement. I don't think the monsters would be on different maps...for example DP and votd would still be safe, and the gargs in whitestone would still only move around at night...only more of them. Like the gobbie in Portland, it adds to the excitement. There are still places lower level players can go to be safe, the same maps they go on now. And it gives them a goal to work for. Like the good old days I love the idea of random spawns and definitely the idea of a lot more of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted February 23, 2005 The monsters will still stay on the maps they have always been on, this is not random spawns throughout the game, only inside each map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryuu Report post Posted February 23, 2005 No, don't do it, I can just imagine all that clicking <_< anyway people wouldn't train on monsters anymore.. they'd all do pvp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Yes. Yes, yes, Yes, YES, YES!! I've wanted this ever since I started playing this game, I really dislike spawn camping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeloo Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Should have been that way from the beginning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryuu Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Please don't do anything with fluffy spawn though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gen_Axis Report post Posted February 23, 2005 NO !! First forcing random ore, now random spawn ?! WTF ?! Try develop something REALLY new, not to annoy more ppl with such so stupid ideas. NO, its not fair ! Players who already trained their skills will be more forward ever, because no other weaker players will be allowed to catch them in stats ! Thats only good for people who already trained many days at statc spawns ! C'mon !!! Stop randomizing ! Start thinking ! Last time you only got stupid ideas how to make players virtual life harder, not to how to make fun AGAIN... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nidan Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Uhm, if you implement this, dont forget to do a total whipe of all stats.... How the bleep are new players suposed to ever catch up with the players that are strong now? Well maybe we can try it at the test server first for some weeks, to see how much more monsters would actually be on the maps, and how much more work it is to get some exp, but to me it sounds like a bad idea. Another thing: What exactly would the new skills do? I didnt quite get that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryuu Report post Posted February 23, 2005 NO !! First forcing random ore, now random spawn ?! WTF ?! Try develop something REALLY new, not to annoy more ppl with such so stupid ideas. NO, its not fair ! Players who already trained their skills will be more forward ever, because no other weaker players will be allowed to catch them in stats ! Thats only good for people who already trained many days at statc spawns ! C'mon !!! Stop randomizing ! Start thinking ! Last time you only got stupid ideas how to make players virtual life harder, not to how to make fun AGAIN... Exaclty, if this were to be implemented they would need to do a stats wipe.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted February 23, 2005 So the fluffy in Carmien manor can spawns in the troll room? :-) Its a bad idea, becuz people that can beat cyclops/fluffys/chimerians are power players.. and btw u CANT train afk on them cuz they have 200hp+ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shasso Report post Posted February 23, 2005 -we will place a lot more monsters on the maps to make up for it If this means like 10 fluffies on a map like grubani instead of one then maybe, would have to try it.. If it means like 3 fluffies on such map, then No.. It is already a pain to look for the monster when you start to train IF you find a free spawn and then if it can spawn everywhere it would make it impossible to train and thats more or less all that i do Maps are big, monsters are small, so you can walk for 30 minutes just to find the first one, that is no fun. I like to kill monsters not just walk around all the time.. Bigger spawns? Maybe if not too big but i wouldnt like it personally, i guess i go under 'powerplayers'. Why do i always get a feeling most of people dont like 'powerplayers' here? =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted February 23, 2005 NO, its not fair ! Players who already trained their skills will be more forward ever, because no other weaker players will be allowed to catch them in stats !Thats only good for people who already trained many days at statc spawns ! This is what i wanted to say also but couldnt bring it in good english... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shasso Report post Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) A solution: randomize all but Cyclops and stronger. You cant afk on those anyway, it will keep 'powerplayers' happy and all those who vote 'yes' (and are probably doing goblin) will be happy too. Its a 'challenge' enough to level after 80/80 attack/defence Edited February 23, 2005 by shasso Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted February 23, 2005 (edited) look sometimes i train in T.desert on fluffys but when u come there u have to search the fluffy first. its realy a pain in the ass! or maby let all monsters spawn randomly exept cyclops/fluffy/chi wolf So they wont be mixed with all the other weaker monsters... u cant afk train on them not even with 100/100 a/d cuz they stil hit you for 15 damage or so, and at 101/101 they stop attacking. Stop ruinn the game! ;-( make critical hits higher or something or give the monsters more health!! Edited February 23, 2005 by Satan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted February 23, 2005 Non power gamers want Random spawns , let the weaker monsters spawn random!! Power gamers dont want random spawns , make the stronger monsters not spawn random! so they cant mix up with the weak trolls/ etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
