Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Vote on your choice. Could someone explain why it was removed in the first place? (I know its been asked so many times) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted January 21, 2005 And also answered so many times: It got removed because Entropy got mad that he has to ask NH to actually stay there. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 And also answered so many times: It got removed because Entropy got mad that he has to ask NH to actually stay there. Regards. Thanks. I dont think this is so bad. NH's could get a tptni (Teleport To Newbie Island) and stay there, almost work in shifts. The same way I stay at beam or the wraith. It's part of our job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derin Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I think the newbie island was a good place to start. To do a few starting quests to get the feel of the game is a good thing, and you could get an answer to the basic question: "How do I eat?" I know that there are help available on IP, but to make it a place where you can do things (learning the game) should still be useful to the newcomers. To leave the island you have to pick this, eat, this, make this, kill this and trade that for an IP ring. Basics done - and you can take on the world of EL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeloo Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I dont think this is so bad. NH's could get a tptni (Teleport To Newbie Island) and stay there, almost work in shifts. The same way I stay at beam or the wraith. It's part of our job. They had #gonoob, but that didn't magically get people to actually be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) I dont think this is so bad. NH's could get a tptni (Teleport To Newbie Island) and stay there, almost work in shifts. The same way I stay at beam or the wraith. It's part of our job. They had #gonoob, but that didn't magically get people to actually be there. Fair enough. I honestly think it would be an advantage for the game overall if this were introduced. Newbie helpers are there for a reason: to assist newcomers to the game. Newbie island was a great part of the game, and I feel that EL could be dividing its target-audience: Those who persevere and those who are lazy. Ok, ok. So you could say that its up to that person (their choice) if they are too lazy to persevere; sure, its their fault, but starting a game should be easy, it should be intruiging and the newbie island was just that: Helpful, forgiving and somewhat intrguiging. Im not undermining any decision made by Entropy, or the other developers, I just have an opinion So please dont take this rant as a "Your doing a bad job" flame Edited January 21, 2005 by Placid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wytter Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I'd say the chances for getting NI back are fairly good ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I'd say the chances for getting NI back are fairly good ;-) w000t Gotta love democracy :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leeloo Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Actually, I think the current newbie helpers take their "job" a bit more serious than the old gang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Actually, I think the current newbie helpers take their "job" a bit more serious than the old gang. I've taken that as a compliment I just feel that this game is going somewhere (after seeing the update's) and I think that everyone should enjoy what EL has and will become. The first part in that process, is getting new players (its also the root of EL's success: People), and if those players find it easy to stay, then it will benefit us all. Edited January 21, 2005 by Placid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Um, to finish this post off: Newbie Island WILL be introduced when we have done the new skills and everything is ready. Not until then however which will be a while yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Um, to finish this post off: Newbie Island WILL be introduced when we have done the new skills and everything is ready. Not until then however which will be a while yet. Excellent. Thanks for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dorplein Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I think there should also be a way for the non-NH's to get there. So everyone can help there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 I think there should also be a way for the non-NH's to get there. So everyone can help there. Thats not such a good idea. It would allow anyone to get there, and then abuse could start, and newbies would be turned away by some rude player spamming or swearing. Which defeats the whole point of the newbie island. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted January 21, 2005 The reason why we dont let that happen is because there are jerks that will go there and spam the poor newbies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted January 21, 2005 There are jerks who can spam local chat at beam or Wraith as well, now we have #lmute... Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 There are jerks who can spam local chat at beam or Wraith as well, now we have #lmute... Regards. Good point. But if that place gets too crowded, it could be disheartening to new-comers to see LOADS of people (meaning those that are not there to help). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dorplein Report post Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Your probably right. Maybe you can ask a NH to send you there. And if you spam or annoy the newbies you get a perm ban? /EDIT And if a NH would see someone not helping he would get banned from NI for ever? Edited January 21, 2005 by Dorplein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well the point of Newbie Island was to have a smallish non-threatening place where newbies aren't overwhelmed by the size of it or by experienced players. It gives them the chance to learn the skills needed in peace, without fear of others laughing at them and they can go at their own pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well, we can make #tptni command to accept as argument a playername. Anyway i regret I didn't voted "no", I'd be so rebelious... Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
(Athosino) Report post Posted January 21, 2005 *Roja's screen* spammer1: fuck spammer1: dick spammer1: spaaaaam Roja: stop this or i will kick you outa here! spammer1: ooo yeah sure ... spammer1: suck my dick spammer1: muhahaha n00bs die!!! i will spam u muhahahahaha #denoobinsland spammer1 Ok, spammer1 has been denoobinslanded, wich means he can NO longer go to the Newbie Island! [PM from spammer1: wat] [PM to spammer1: dont do this anymore or you will get baned!] [PM from spammer1: like i care...] [PM to spammer1: ok, if you want...] #ban spammer1 spammer1 was booted! *spammer1's screen* spammer1: fuck spammer1: dick spammer1: spaaaaam Roja: stop this or i will kick you outa here! spammer1: ooo yeah sure ... spammer1: suck my dick spammer1: muhahaha n00bs die!!! i will spam u muhahahahaha You have been denoobishinslanded, wich means you can NO longer go to the Newbie Island! [PM to Roja: wat] [PM from Roja: dont do this anymore or you will get baned!] [PM to Roja: like i care...] [PM from Roja: ok, if you want...] You have baned by Roja. [Disconnected from server.] [Press any key to attempt reconnect.] [Press Alt+X to quit.] *Alt+X* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted January 21, 2005 Well the point of Newbie Island was to have a smallish non-threatening place where newbies aren't overwhelmed by the size of it or by experienced players. It gives them the chance to learn the skills needed in peace, without fear of others laughing at them and they can go at their own pace. Thats exactly my point, its purpose is to introduce the newbies in a friendly way. It would be pointless to have newbie island if all players were allowed there, it could be abused in so many ways, and the NH patrolling would have very little time for the newbies, if all he/she has to do is deal with abuse and spam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derin Report post Posted January 22, 2005 I think it would be just fine if only NH:s can go there. The idea is to learn about the game on NI, not actually play it. Once you leave NI, 'real life' begins. Maybe you could get a letter (sort of graduation) from some NPC on NI. That letter should then be presented to some other NPC on IP, who will start you on some additional tutorial quests (if you want to), and perhaps give you some starting food (or a little cash) "the one who sees the light, will abolish the darkness" Book of Bane, verse 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Well, it would be also OK if NH could be able to invite there helpful people. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Smile Report post Posted January 22, 2005 well infact, they can evolve at their own pace, but wouldn't it be a big shock to land into the toughies world, with these people that talk to each other... etc... perhaps newbie Island should be worth staying until at least level 15 oa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites