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  1. Posted · Report reply

    Heya. My wife bought me my Mac Mini. It is brand new. The sad part is, I load up EL and after a few seconds of gameplay, it crashes. Here are my computer stats. Please direct me on what I can do. If you want the MAC problem report. I can give you that too.

     

    Hardware Overview:

     

    ...

     

    NVIDIA GeForce 9400:

     

    Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 9400

    Type: Display

    Bus: PCI

    VRAM (Total): 256 MB

    Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)

    Device ID: 0x0861

    Revision ID: 0x00b1

    ROM Revision: 3362

    Displays:

    For the benefit of others, here is the relevant part of your crash log:

    Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.GeForce8xxxGLDriver 0x170e037c gldGetTextureLevel + 739724
1 com.apple.GeForce8xxxGLDriver 0x170e15c3 gldGetTextureLevel + 744403
2 GLEngine 0x16f023ae gleDrawArraysOrElements_VBO_Exec + 1950
3 libGL.dylib 0x93d14aa4 glDrawElements + 52
4 net.0ctane.EternalLands 0x0014a691 cal_render_actor_shader + 1101

    It is hard to know if we should blame Nvidia or EL for this one right now. Are you in a specific location when it crashes? Are you near water? What do you have the "Water Shader" setting at?

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    I have been having trouble with the game crashing when i use the manufacture screen.

    I have been playing on a macbook for quite a while and I think I understand the problem now. The Intel integrated graphics openGL driver has a bug that causes this crash when certain features are used at the same time. Most applications dont do this and thus there is no problem, and this is probably also the reason why Apple and/or Intel havent provided a fix yet.

     

    The EL client normally does not use the problematic features, except when drawing the rounded buttons like the ones that are on the manufacture window, the spell window, the statistics-counters window etc. So as long as you dont have any of these windows open the client works like a charm - open any of them and the client will crash sooner or later.

     

    I had a look at the source code and it seems to be quite simple to make a quick-n-dirty patch by having the "rounded button" routinedo the normal square buttons instead, but I am currently unable to verify this as I do not have the development environment set up.

    If someone with a devel environment would care to give this a whirl I would be happy to hear from you.

    If you send me the location in the code, I will take a look. This would make a lot of people happy.

  3. Posted · Report reply

    Heya. My wife bought me my Mac Mini. It is brand new. The sad part is, I load up EL and after a few seconds of gameplay, it crashes. Here are my computer stats. Please direct me on what I can do. If you want the MAC problem report. I can give you that too.

    Looks like a nice little machine. Can you send me the crashlog via forum PM? Should be something like:

    /Users/your_user_name/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/EternalLands_date_stamp_computer_name.crash

  5. Posted · Report reply

    When I hit 'TAB' to open the map window or try to open the map with the map icon the client crashes...help please :)

     

    *edit* it only crashes on a guild map, but didn't before

    Can you send me the crash log via forum PM? It is found in:

    /Users/your_user_name/Library/Logs/CrashReporter

     

    Also, do you see any error messages in the error_log.txt file that seem relevant?

  7. Posted · Report reply

    This could be something to worry about in addition to the unknown sounds. Have you installed the sound and music packs?
    no i didn't DL it as it was all winamp ogg files etc. so i didn't bother.

    Actually, ogg is an open format. All the sounds and music should work just fine. I tested them on a PPC Mac a few years ago. The atmospheric sounds are kinda nice. Personally, I don't use them though.

  8. Posted · Report reply

    bit. 800x600 16 or 800x600 32

    32. Macs pretty much always use 32 bit now-a-days.

    ok error log shows almost all unknown sounds and

     

    [12:53:56] Error: Can't open file "alias.ini"

    The alias.ini is nothing to worry about.

     

    [12:53:56] Error initializing sound: Error setting up listener - Invalid Value

    This could be something to worry about in addition to the unknown sounds. Have you installed the sound and music packs? It might be that the OpenAL sound system is getting overloaded when you are in busy places and fights. There could be a delay too, if OpenAL is trying to still process events stuck in a buffer. Pure conjecture.

     

    Now, make sure you have the EL sound system (music and effects) turned off, restart the game, and go fight somewhere. Let me know if you get more hangs. I know it is inconvenient, but keep at a low resolution for now. If everything is fine for a day, up your resolution.

  9. Posted · Report reply

    ok nothing happened sitting in the room. does 16 or 32 make a difference? either is fine?
    16 or 32 what?

     

    does this mean it's in there just not showing up in the folder menu?

     

    ls ~/Library/Application\ Support/

    AOL Instant Messenger (SM) KomodoEdit

    ...

    Eternal Lands Whamb

    ...

    FullCircle ssX

    This most likely means you are looking in the wrong place when navigating with the Finder. As I mentioned in the first reply, you need to look in your Library folder. There is also a system Library folder which is not the same thing. The system library is located at:

    /Library

    Your library is located at:

    /Users/whateveryourloginis/Library

     

    Now that we have clearly identified that you do indeed have a Eternal Lands folder within Application Support, you should be able to find the error_log.txt file inside.

     

    Anyhow, let me know how you do after an hour in a busy place both with and without sound & music.

  10. Posted · Report reply

    this is my computer. my account. i have administration rights.
    Progress.
    the other guy that posted not hanging (just quits after logging in) but no application support folder.

    http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=49144

    Yeah, that post was only slightly more informative than saying, "I cannot play the game". At least you started by telling us the hardware you were using.
    it's never hung while i was doing nothing so i doubt that would produce a hang.
    I doubt you will get a resolution to the problem unless you start taking my suggestions. Unless you test the possibility, you will not know the answer. Now, after your character has sit around doing nothing in isolation for at least an hour, go somewhere busy (IP beam for instance) and again do nothing for an hour. If you get another crash/hang, turn off the game's sound system and repeat the "doing nothing". Yes, this can be frustrating. You will miss out on a few precious harvest hours.

     

    Now, I want some more information. Open the Terminal application (can use Spotlight to find it). In the terminal, please type the following command and tell me (as in, copy & paste) the output.

    ls ~/Library/Application\ Support/

    Include the typed command in your copy&pasted reply please.

     

    If you follow my advice, we will hopefully be able to determine if the problem is audio or video related.

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    i can't deal with all the intermixed quoting:

    You are asking to get free help for a game that is free. Deal. I have more tolerance than Entropy but not much more. So, I will try to help you once more.

    1. i amend my previous statement to read hangs periodically... random intervals at a fairly consistent rate.

    i've tried most every graphics/resolution combination and this produces no noticeable effect in regards to

    hanging.

    Don't amend a post to something more ridiculous. Periodically and randomly but at a consistent rate? Sigh.

    Set your resolution to 800x600. Login. Go hide in a building. Log out. Log back in, go to console mode, and start a timer. Don't do anything (this includes typing). How long does it take to hang?

    2. i am not running minimal account. the folder is not in my application support folder. there

    is another person on here with the same problem.

    I will ask again. Is this your computer? Is this other person experiencing hangs on the same computer? Is that with your account or their account? Do you have administrator rights on the computer?

    3. ok i have the crash log... i assumed it wouldn't be there as it did not crash. it just hangs until

    i force quit. it's really really long. post it here or what?

    Post the first 25 lines.

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    my client hangs all the time. i've constantly change the graphics settings

    around etc. so i doubt it's that.

    If it hangs all the time, it would be difficult to login. Well, what resolution are you trying to run at? Eye candy? Poorman?
    i found a specific log for the hangs (hangreporter) but i don't

    have permission to read it and do not know how

    to change that i changed permissions but still can't read.

    Do you know why you don't have permission? Is this your computer?
    also there is not el folder in application support... maybe

    it's that? i've tried DL and reinstall several times.

    Are you trying to run EL on some sort of minimal account? An "Eternal Lands" folder should definitely be created inside your Library's Application Support folder.
    this was the only log thing i could find about it

     

    3/30/09 12:49:28 PM mds[24] (Error) Task: <MDSFetchTask: 0x39d4f0>{taskID:0x0000500c age:277ms} couldn't fetch attributes: (os/kern) object terminated

    This is a problem with Spotlight, not EL.
    i have the hang log but it's from apple support thing so can't

    cut and paste but it's super long anyway.

    Open the Console program. You will be able to access the Crash Logs from there.
    also i have noted if you have more than 1 copy on th HD it hangs a

    whole lot more.

    Then don't have more than one copy. :)

  14. Posted · Report reply

    I have been having trouble with the game crashing when i use the manufacture screen.

     

    It has mostly happened when doing alchemy, but i don't think it happens just then. sometimes it happens when the manufacture screen is just open, and you open other windows.

     

    I'm Running on a Mac Book, BTW

    This is a bug that has been plaguing MacBooks (that have integrated Intel graphics) since the 10.5.5 update and EL 1.7. I have looked into the problem a bit, and I don't think there is much we can do. It seems to be entirely related to an update in the graphics drivers that occurred at 10.5.5.

     

    Florian and Fedora, care to weigh in on this?

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    Does anybody know if this has been fixed yet because I am having the same problem.

    You are posting to a general bug report thread, so you need to be a little more specific about "this".

     

    Also, this thread was for the 1.7.0 release while we are now on 1.8.0.

     

    Finally, "this" bug (assuming you are talking about the MacBook Intel graphics crashing) has not been fixed. As I tried to explain to some others via PMs, it seems to have more to do with Apple updating the graphics drivers than with EL. Short of removing all text from the game, there is not too much we can do. When the game crashes for you, you should send a report to Apple saying something like, "This problem appeared after the 10.5.5 update and only affects MacBooks with integrated Intel graphics".

     

    Is there a new 1.8.0 bugs thread yet? This thread should probably be closed (after someone links to the new one).

  17. Posted · Edited by 0ctane · Report reply

    Fedora provided this package, so I wish to thank him for that. If anyone has problems, please post them here.

    Get it from here: http://www.eternal-lands.com/el_osx_180a_snd.dmg

    No love for me?

    This isn't really a problem with the image or anything but I was wondering if anyone knows how I can change the privileges on the dmg file. I'm not too good with macs and have this problem every time there is a new client. It always says I have read/write access to the .dmg but wont let me write any files to the application package like custom bmp's etc. If I try to change the permissions in the gui they are greyed out.
    It sounds like you're running the game from exactly where/how it downloaded? (the little white square :laugh:) If thats the case, then it won't let you alter the file inside, all you need to do is drag the 'EternalLands', and 'ChooseELServer' icons from there to your desktop (or any other location or folder you want to store them at) and it should allow you to overwrite files, such as maps.

    Enly is correct. The disk image (dmg), just like a hard drive, has a limited size which is determined when it is created. Essentially, it is full, and you cannot write anything to it. You need to copy the contents of the disk image to your hard drive if you want to modify the contents of the package.

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    There do seem to be resizing bugs. This is frequently seen on the Mac build of the game. While a bit of a hassle, you can set the screen size at the main splash page before logging in to you character. This might help.

  19. Posted · Report reply

    RC3 Mac OS X build available here.

     

    Game seems a bit less responsive.

     

    Built on a MacBook Pro, OS X 10.5.5.

    By less responsive do you mean slower?

    We have some updated textures that are bigger, so that might slow down some low end video cards.

    Definitely not a video card issue. Radeon 1600 and Nvidia 9400M.

    There is just a delay between clicks and actions. Ping seemed fine.

     

    Thanks for that - seems to work great so far.

     

    Edit - it crashes sometimes when i mix, happened at srm sto and evtr sto.

    With the full release we will have another Mac-specific thread for bugs. Anyhow, I have to assume that you are on a Mac that uses Intel integrated graphics. This is a known bug with the Intel graphics drivers as of OS X 10.5.5.

  22. Posted · Report reply

    I did a CVS update and compiled the MacOS X client last night.

     

    So far, it seems to be looking good. I like some of the new art.

     

    Also, a big thank you to whoever updated the Xcode project this time around. It was nice not to have to add in a bunch of missing files, like I had to do when the 1.7 RC came out.

    That would be me.

  23. Posted · Edited by 0ctane · Report reply

    I have uploaded my build of the Mac 1.8.0RC client on my website. It contains all the resources (except sounds and music). It was built on a MacBook, OS X 10.5.6.

     

    To use the test server, download the 1.7.0 client and use the included ChooseELServer app. This is described on the EL download page.

     

    I will update my EL Mac music instructions in a bit, but they are mostly correct. (I am away on vacation currently)

     

    I should mention that the 10.5.6 OS release does NOT fix the known manu crash for MacBooks with Intel integrated graphics.

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    Starts in an hour, I guess. I have to go to bed, so I won't be around. Wish there was a way to 'film' it. Half the fun is watching people try stuff on, and the anticipation as the next prize is called.

    I guess I'll just have to check the list in the morning. :-(

     

    Congrats on raising the money!

    You should have been there. You won a bunch of stuff.

     

    Thanks to everyone for a fantastic event. Thanks to diabetes for providing additional prizes at the end. The first post has been updated with the winners posted next to each item. I will be contacting the winners in order to deliver items. You are all awesome!

     

    Now, I have to get back to training... :o

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