Itzalan

I have 2 questions. I think the answer is yes but i'd just like it to be sure as i haven't seen it clearly stated (Maybe i need to improve my reading skill ) 1) Are steel shield and tit chain allowed ? For me, steel shield is part of steel armour, but well.... 2) If you leave the map (By dieing/teleporting/any other way), are you allowed to come back into play ?

Lies by Evanescence matches all those O. Now, i may be totaly wrong

It's supposed to be a PK server, not Mixers Heaven, so the only safe insides should be those in safe cities and that's it. Also, i don't think all cities (Places with houses, surrounded by barriers or walls) should be safe. For example, there's no need for Ywarstaw or Omlinor to be safe (With the chim and fluffies wandering there, it's not safe even if it's not PK anyways)

That's all i needed to read Just sent $5 to have Argian on that server

OK guys and gals, join because you want a sexeh pink horned GM or because we have a good looking web site (Made by Taly ), but just join

Alll we need is that server up and running, anything else has no meaning Btw, for Ugly Orchan Empy's information, not everyone will multiplay .... I mean, maybe I'll have more than 1 account but they won't interact, never

For me, armor and weapon limitation is OK as long as COLs and COMs are allowed. The monsters by there aren't all so easy (even if they won't attack me ) and considering that there's no restriction on summoning stones, if we can't have COLs, we're for most 2 hit kills

Here is da Wing team : - Eurik - Talixim - Yani - Itzalan

I'm for it. Though, all maps but IP being PK seems to be a little too much... maybe just make all maps with a storage a PK map ? Anyway, i think i'll give it a try

Hmm, many bad reasons for both sides here in my opinion and quite a twisted logic sometimes. Anyway, here's my opinion. For those who like to make RL analogies : - If i find a wallet on the floor, i'll look for its owner or bring it to nearest police station so they can find the owner for me. - If i find a chest in a hole on a beach, i'll take it. It's totally legal to do so in most countries (Including mine ). And community ? Community will be jealous of me and laugh at the one stupid enough to leave that chest there (I said beach, it also works with caves or forests ) For those who don't like RL analogies : - If i find a db, i'll look for its owner and give it back (Many people can confirm it ) - If i find a hyperbag, i'll take it. And community ? Well, same as above or not, the bag is mine anyways And for those who wonder, no, i won't jump on a hyperbag if i see you making it, it wouldn't be fun for me. And for the bag owner's fun, well, he had fun making it and if he didn't, he must be masochist, so he had fun in the end.

Bah, if they have fun doing those treasure hunts, so be it. What's the point in leaving a bag with 130k FEs anyway ? You can start with Wing, thanks

Actually, the silent majority (Me included) disagrees with you as pointed out by Troger. Now, the noisy minority keeps trying to make its way through it but it's still minority Edit : Oh, there was only 1 g in Troger

Ooooh how well I know how you feel momo \o/ Join Wing (And bring p00nie with you )

Thanks for that event and to all those who helped making it possible Our team kinda won it as we joined to have fun and we reached that goal (Even though i shouldn't have died when i did and am still pissed against myself because of it ) Anyway, thanks again, i'll be looking for the next event (I'll bring a night visor to watch it at night this time )

Aren't you in summer time ?

As long as it is being attacked, I don't mind. Itzalan (And Argian)

Actually, even if you didn't reset

The real Seal and a Volken (With 1 n unlike the impersonnating one) are currently Wing members. Someone tried to sell geoh (Wing member) 3 or 4 days ago. I'm feeling like someone will ask me soon if i want to buy Argian (Argian being a Wing member too ). All Wing members are innocent here. I just hope his IP is locked and not just the chars (Hoping it isnt something like a dynamic IP). After all, he impersonates active players (And they don't like it, believe me), not only someone who left long ago like kadi. Anyway, join Wing Edit : Mistake correction, it's more accurate now

I know, that's what i wrote

Double spawn ? Nearly every time i go by grubani, the spawn is free, and when it's not, im the one using it most of the time And i don't need a double spawn Beside that, i agree that 2 or 3 more mountain chims in "safe" places would be nice, even a double spawn if it can please empy

The first guild i joined was Free (smoomsy's guild) then smooms, jakie emon2 and me left it to join =hc= After that [TM] then guildless then [TM] again. Now in Wing, the guild that everybody wants to join

I don't train much but when i do, it's on mountain chims. Used to train a little on them before c2, but they were a lot weaker and had 180hp if i remember correctly. Considering their current strength, for such monsters, i'd say drops aren't really good : about 40 gc max, may be a little more, loads of useless tit longs and general axe books , same as when they were weaker. If you have a CoL, a tit plate and a jagged/cutlass, you'll probably prefer to go for yetis. Drops are so much better even if you get lower exp, yetis hitting more often and harder For desert chim, i started to train them the day they appeared (OK, may be 2 or 3 days later, the time to find my way to that new continent ). At that time, it was the perfect monster to punch for me. After more than 30 a/d on fluff, i was teh happyz0rz. As i don't think its stats changed, it probably is the same for those whith the same stats (CoL, steel/tit plates didn't exist, now, people train monsters they're wouldn't have been able to train before). Drops where OK (Sad that it stopped dropping EFEs, ELEs sell for a good price now though ) so i'd say nothing to change here. Forest chims are the weird ones. They give decent defense but attack is quite low compared to it (20 points lower, that's a 20 levels gap). Maybe some tweaking could be done here. The mana you can get from there is nice too. The drops are more or less the same than for desert but EMPs instead of great healing pots and those books it keeps dropping, so it should be OK In my opinion, just a little change in FC's a/d and MC drops should be good. No problem with mana on MC, i just make mana pots while training, it's more than enough, i just take some vials, a bunch of wine, the lupines surround every spawn The main problem imho is that people are now spoiled with all those enourmous drops from other monsters, that's why they go from fluff to yeti as soon as they can, ignoring the poor chims, so, if you want them to go for chims, make it that only chims drop nmt (Well, in some other way, good for me as it is now, i always find a free mountain chim spawn when i feel like training )

Check hulda or irivenion cave back spawn and verify ur speculations U will come to the right conclusions eMPi Empy \o/ I used to do it in Hulda cave, my "speculations" come from there Edit: It wasn't Hulda but Trassian cave, it seems that I should go to C2 more often, i can't even remember maps name PS to Empy : Thanks for remembering me i had #hint on ignore

On a side note, for the yeti "training", if you have enough time to kill your yeti and move all the way to the second spawn within the 90 seconds, then you probably killed it with a sword in 8-12 hits What kind of training is it ? You're not even geting 20% of the total exp you could get Those who claim 2 spawns are not training, they're just killing yetis for drops So, share guys, share

Some of you may have noticed the Wing tag last week. As the beginning wasn't what i expected (Members hating each others , guilds set as friends/enemies randomly...), I just destroyed and recreated it (OK, I wasted 30k gc but at least, I'm sure everything has been wiped out). It will now start on new basis as everything as been reseted: no more members (Beside me), no more friendly/enemy guild (But [TM] that I set back to friendly, hiya Punty ). First, if you want to join, you'll need 50+ attack AND defense or 40+ in any other skill, not including harvest and overall. Now, the guild rules made to avoid the mess that i got last week : - Anyone annoying will be kicked without warn (By annoying, I mean : cursing in #IG, scam attempts, bagjumping or anything that may lead you to outlaws. Still, if you're posted in outlaws, the reason will have to be quite good and the same goes for the proves ) - If you expect to get a rank higher than 14 quickly, no need for you to try to join - Don't PK friends, you're allowed to be nice with enemies though - I'll probably find something to add here, but not today To join, PM me (Itzalan or Argian). If none is on, try later or post here Same as above if any diplomacy has to be involved PS : Scarr should post something like "lol" soon