WizzKidd

Hey guys, the solution seems clear to me.. make a donation today and donate regularly to help keep things running smooth. We love el..so why not help out a bit.

Well, I have to say, that in light of looking at it from the standpoint of bandwidth and server maintenance I can see the need to make money to cover that. Im sure the EL store helps, but I also agree with SandCastle. I own 2 store bots, and I can totally afford $40 per year. So why not leave Guard bots as a one time investment, and from now on change the pricing for store bots as you have intended. While I still feel it would be wrong to charge people who have paid under the old agreement, It would not be wrong to ask them if they would be willing to come under the new agreement in order to help continue the growth and development of the game. This way, those who cant afford to pay yearly would not have to, but those who could afford it would have a chance to help support the game they love. I would gladly be the first to sign up. I love this game, and the bots are a huge part of why I love it. It was just quite a shock to have it unveiled in that way. One other question, since the $100 pays for the first 2 years, would a double blessed bot ($200) pay for maybe 3 or 4?

Shari Owner: WizzKidd Location: Palon Vertas [256,121] (near storage) Merchandise: - Sells: Crafting products, Alchemy products, Weapons, Armor, etc - Buys: Crafting products, Alchemy products, Weapons, Armor, etc Activation command: /Shari help Rating: 5/5

When I paid $200 for Charn, it was with the understanding that this one time charge covered him. When $100 was paid for Shari, that was under the same understanding. When our guild worked to raise $200 for our map, we also knew that we would have to raise another $100 for a guard bot. All of these decisions to support EL were based on the idea that they were ONE TIME CHARGES. It is a breach of contract to change your mind after the fact and require more money. I have a hosting account with a provider who at one time offered the account for LIFE at $100. Now they charge $100 yearly for all new accounts. However they can not legally take away my lifetime account and so they honor that agreement. I dont see this as any diferent. Please reconsider the existing bots to be "grandfathered" in as is the normal legal presidence in such matters.

Our guild has enjoyed the Comic styles of WinterFalcon.. I think this applies here: http://irontribe.sytes.net/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2353

I also voted that they should be part of armor, not weapons. And since the system of what can and can't be equiped at the same time will need adjusting, it seems like the idea of dual wielding may fit well here. Say for example I dont want a shield.. instead I want to hold 2 serps. That would totally rock. But I would think that some sort of skill be required to wield 2 weapons. It would be dificult to swing them both with accuracy. So maybe this would require a rare book drop to learn dual wielding. Then from there, maybe there would be books for each weapon you wish to dual wield. This would prevent dual wielding of weapons like staffs which would make no sence. So there would be no book for this. So, I would have to find the "Dual weapon wielding" book and read it. Once I have done this, I need to find the "Dual Serp Wielding" book before I could equip 2 serps. And even then, I think there would need to be an accuracy hit maybe -3 or so as well as a possible defense hit too (since it's obviously a very aggressive move). But then you could get 2 hits per round (or chance for it at least). I would make the books even more rare than the typical rare book drop. Just a thought

Hmm.. You are recognizing that the BROD is a problem, but I dont think your solution solves it. Even if I have that shield you mention, I still have a chance at loosing my thermal serp (if I had one) or NMT cloak or whatever. Now this being a game and all I would be willing to accept that loss but there is a catch in this case. The EL store. Say I bought a Thermal serp from the EL store ($90 us dollars). Then someone uses an item to break my item?? Sorry, that scenario does not work for me. And as long as the BROD exists, I will not be purchasing any PK items from the store. It just makes no sence to me.

Well, Charn also has this feature which has only allowed guild members to send message to this point. Anyone can read messages sent to them via charn. Charn also does not log the pm's publically. They are part of a debug log which is only reviewed when someone attempts to scam the bot. So, if need be.. I would be happy to open this feature to the public.

I'm in too

Many thanks man!!! I was jonzing for forums

What ever happened to that "Outlaw" idea. Where someone could do #outlaw and for 1 ingame day you are an outlaw.. that was a great idea. outlaw = pkable of course

I was just wondering if there is any news yet as to the final punishment. I really miss having my guildies on line (most of them are council members in IRON). They are all very upright citizens and would certainly not repeat the offense. Especially since we were all under the impression that it was not against the rules to begin with. Obviously we should have asked a mod about it instead of following the advice of other players doing the same. I pleed on behalf of IRON, please un-ban these players soon as they are dearly missed.

If he managed to atk you before you logged out.. then you logged out (your client closed) then he killed you, your client would have no record of this. If he killed you when you logged back in while you were waiting for the screen to load.. your client would know about it. Therefore... he got lucky and tapped you just before you logged out

I am not a strong pker, I get pwned almost every time I gear up.. and I see no problem with a delay on logout.. maybe 10 seconds.. And it does not have to apply to server dis-connects.. it could be that when someone tries to close their client, the client sends a message to the server letting the server know it's an intentional shutdown.. then the server applies the 10 second delay. Therefore if the network dis-connects you, or the server does (Grue) there would be no delay. I really dont see what problems this introduces.

I think a log out delay works well.. not to state the obvious, but WOW has a 20 or 30 second logout delay. During which time a dialog is shown which says loggin out in... and has a cancel button. It works wonderfully and would also work great in this case IMHO. -PS Not wanting to make this game like WOW.. that would suck.. but there may be a few universal ideas that work well in any MMORPG.

Holy man hu?? I love it.. Love the name, the cost and the effect

August 21st, 1971

Yeah, that's why the members were kicked immediatley.. cause IRON is retards. PLEASE!! IRON is a very large guild. From time to time you have to throw out some bad apples.

Well, I cant tell you how many guild leaders have contacted me saying something to the effect of "WTF, IRON is pking now?" A notice was posted some time ago. Now we are not any less of a friendly guild because of this. Pking is a very exciting part of the game and we want to experience that. However, we will still stand by our code of honor and truth. We will never attack anyone engaged in pvp training unless that person is a declared enemy. We also do not consider it an act of war if you PK one of us fairly and honorably. We would hope the rest of you feel the same way. Pking is fun.. no need to berate each other or act like children. Instead, if you are found in a pking area (not a training arena) we will try to take you down and you may try to take us down. Our rules are very strict, and our members will stick by them or face the concequences for it. If your guild currently considers us friendly but we have never FORMALIZED that relationship.. please IG us ASAP and request friendship. Otherwise.. see you on the pking fields, and let's all have fun

To you it's always a friendly fight invitation To others, I have learned to be more specific

BTW - we have a public pk list. To see it "/charn pk list" to find out more info on a name "/charn pk info name" If you are on the list and wish to be removed, pm the person who put you on the list and try to make ammends.

put me down for 5k silver ore

Hmm.. I signed up on the day you announced it.. and It still has not found me a partner.. yet I pvp with about 5 different people who are on every day

It got me just about dead on.

ok man.. again my apologies for the mis-understanding.