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Yep thanks to maxine it worked for me too. Can't we fix the wiki site so it works properly without this tho?

This is a really weird one. My alt is LadyFlame. Probably my main char these days. Anyway I try and do a Haidir quest daily. Three days ago it came up as Vulca. I looked in a certain crib sheet and saw that Vulca was 30 Cockatrice in WVF, so I shot 31 of them. But the quest didn't end. On the way I killed a forest Chimeran as well. Then I looked at the crib sheet and saw that in fact Vulca could also be 30 Forest chimeran in WVF, so I killed 30 of those. The quest didn't end, I am now over 40 FCW and the quest continues. Now the technique I eventually used on the FCW because they are over my pay grade with a sword, and WVF is a difficult place to range, was to use summoned tank rabbits to pin the FCW so I could range them without them running off. The FCW all registered on my counters, as my kills except one where the last killer blow was administered by a tank rabbit. Is it simply the case that for Haidir purposes the only way to register a kill is to have done all the damage yourself? And even using magic doesn't work? I am now stuck it seems in a never ending quest. Can anyone help? (PS: it seems that if you log out and in again, and go to the NPC, the quest appears again in the quest log)

well;l yes. Anyway it was an irritating and costly three days and frankly I am not enjoying playing and this was the last straw, so may see you around some time, may not.

In all but one case I did. Well I know that too. But surely someone - radu - must know what the rules are here? Or has whoever coded it up vanished from mortal ken? Even if you argue it's not an implementation bug, it is a documentation bug. If range kills don't work in mêlée, what makes you think that sword kills in mêlée would? Is this why no one uses summons to pin monsters for quests?

That does not compute. The ONE time when the FCW was down to 3 points and a bunny dealt the killer blow it did not register in my stats. In all other cases they have died with 10+HP on them by arrow shot. The bunnies are not capable of killing on their own, they do little or no damage. In all cases I am pouring arrows into them (FCW) at close range and doing the vast majority of the damage and administering the killer blow. It's not clear anywhere who gets credit for mêlée kills: Or what the point of summons are, if they can't be used to assist with kills

sometimes for a while, on EL only , the CPU on my machine goes to 100% and the sound gets very distorted. After a while, it goes away. Anyone have any ideas?

Manage to stumble through git and dependency hell and the client finally built no problems. It runs a lot faster and so far hasn't gone weird on me.

Aislinn: No errors shown in the logs from the time the problem happens. I think I am running pure alsa these days. Not sure where the git cli8ant program is..I'll go looking for it

Definitely think the whole EL economy is - like any soviet top down imposed one - totally borked. A rational approach would be to work right through everything in terms of how many minutes it takes to make an item from all harvested ing. including food, and then assign a 'standard hourly rate' If it depends on 'special items' well that's different again, but for normal stuff it should be that way. As for noobs - well its tough being a noob no matter what, but it soon passes. I shouldn't be able to mine coal/iron ore and sell it for more money per hour than turning it into e.g. steel bars. At the moment my alt is ruthless in whether she is making money or levelling up. And as skill levels rise in combat, its actually more profitable at an hourly rate to kill and loot than to do any harvesting or mixing. That is not right.

MM looks like a DOS attack. Got thrown off but reconnected and all OK at the moment. 51ms latency seems within normal range for me

For those of you in the USA - especially Western US, it seems from on-line chitchat that getting to Europe has been an issue. This is culled from somewhere and may be useful to understand what is going on, and why ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You will have seen the news (having a general awareness is sort of mandatory for network operators) so I shouldn't need to tell you about Sandy, and the fairly major flooding to everything below ground in downtown NYC. I've been keeping an eye on things. Outages are primarily divided into two: 1. Submarine and backhaul capacity - generally backhaul. This has affected transatlantic capacity, particularly on TAT14 (one leg was undergoing maintenance and the other failed) and Yellow/AC2 (failure in backhaul from the landing station). I believe these have been restored. Not checked yet this morning 2. Datacentre power operations Every major DC in NYC/NY is out of utility (mains) power and running on generators. Some have suffered problems where diesel tanks and pumps are in the basement (fire regs) and have suffered diesel contamination and pump failure due to flooding. In particular, your timestamped problems coincide with generator problems at 111 8th, which is a massive building housing many colos including TelX and Equinix, resulting in power failures to various suites there. Most recent incident today was a fuel pump failure, resulting in a 40 minute failure to some suites. However, in other locations, whole DC buildings have been offline for hours/days. You are likely to see this continuing for days to come. Urban areas currently without utility power might not have it restored for some days. -- Will Hargrave Technical Director LONAP

FileFactory File not found Still not found :-) IS there a current Linux editor?

Ok this is a bit of a long one. For some time - not sure when it happened a few - not many, but a few - players and bots appear to be transparent, in parts. The typical effect is shown here: http://vps.templar.c...hes problem.jpg Note access_denied and Tina...who clearly shows a custom cloak...but no bra boots or panties! I have upgraded to the latest Nvidia drivers, clicked every single clickable thing in GFX and video configurations, and as a result lots of lovely custom clothes shados and stars have appeared, but still some characters don't show up! Thinking that maybe there was a client update needed I found one - an update for 1.9.3 - but that actually failed to work at all. It wanted GLIBC_2.11 which has been superseded on my system el.x86_64.linux.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /home/xxx/el.x86_64.linux.bin) e.g. ldd -v /bin/sh linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fff7e9ff000) libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x00007fd05d177000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fd05cf73000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00007fd05cc20000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fd05d3b6000) Version information: /bin/sh: libdl.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/libdl.so.2 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.4) => /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.4) => /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libncurses.so.5: libdl.so.2 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/libdl.so.2 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libdl.so.2: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/libc.so.6 libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.5) => /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so.6: ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.s So I reverted to the old 1.9.3 (non updated) binary to run the game but left all and every other update in place. Still no joy with transparent people System is Debian Lenny with latest updates and backports I conjecture somehow I am missing some texture files or something, but I cant see how? No one in game seems to have a clue...

OK. Somehow I had TWO clients running simultaneously. All sorted and speed is back

Well I found the problem. The 1.93 update to the actual rendered objects hadn't worked using GUI tools so I did it the old fashioned way, and now the clothes and arrows are back BUT something appalling has happened to the frame rate. Used to get 30-50 now crawling at 12-15? Same on all available builds of the client too. Looks like processing all those clothes is now screwing up the video or summat Even poor man don't give me any speed sheesh. software upgrades. Who needs em

Ok I stumbled through the source compile and managed to get a working binary (says 1.9.3 p2) but it STILL shows the same bug. Although it seems to be a good fast and cleaner and smaller binary than the official 1.9.3 release (2.8Mbytes versus 6.6Mbytes!!?? I suspect its using non statically linked libraries or summat) Hmm Something else also happened some time ago..training arrows showed the wrong image in my inventory. I'll go and buy some and see if that's still an issue as well yup see here http://vps.templar.co.uk/el/Training_arrows_display_bug.png Something weird has happened to my rendering maps maybe any ideas?

cant use that debian package - this system is too old to have the correct libraries. Might have to compile from source..or upgrade the OS to squeezse..sigh. Another week sorting incompatibilities and rebuilding stuff then.

Well thanks..I might. Where does that install though?

This item is a multicolored item of tailoring. When dropped it prevenst any other player from standing or sitting on te spot for the duration of the day, Any beach towels left after the end of the day magically pouf. Bags may be left on the beachtowel by its owner and will not get stolen or pouf until midnight. Any player who deploys this item automatically acquires the anti-social perk as long as it is left on the ground. However if the player is killed , rights to the beachtowel pass to the killer, or if its by a monster, poison, accident or suicide the beachtowel vanishes.

On linux, the "general case" is to remove all (non-user configuration) files related to the previous version of software before installing a new version. This sort of thing is why every single package management system (well, that I've ever seen - pacman, dpkg/apt(deb), yum(rpm), etc.) all do this when they 'upgrade' a package. EDIT: You could also check if bluap is still supporting Lenny in his Debian repo, and use that instead, for more painless upgrading. Er no. That's a reinstall/ Not an upgrade. If the answer was to simply remove everything and reinstall - which I ended up doing - why bother with an upgrade package? Upgrading normally intelligently upgrades what needs to be upgraded and leaves what does not, alone.

I am sure it does, if by 'properly' you means the way it worked on some developers setup, and not the general case. ;-) I extracted the archive over a working 1.9.1 setup, and it fell to pieces. Obviously, it didn't actually delete something it should have done. Which possibly wasn't present in the developers setup. BTW I am still getting all these [22:32:39, engine/logging.cpp:301] Log started at: Mon Jun 20 22:32:39 2011 BST [22:32:39, engine/logging.cpp:304] version: 1.9.2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'server_address= game.eternal-lands.com', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'server_port= 2001 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'use_vertex_array= 1', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'use_mipmaps= 0 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'text_filter_replace= smeg', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'compass_north= 1 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'near_plane= 0.1 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'transparency_resolution_fix= 0', type 2 But the game plays, though I haven't had a chance to play it.

OK. MANY of the problems have gone by taking stuff from the FULL new installation and stamping over the old directories. Why the update did not do that, I do not know. I now have clothing and hair back, eye candy works, no black borders round text.. but all players are lacking feet now. Boots? don't exist in my game! Also the squares on the board are still showing black.. Now I get errors from elconfig - should el.ini have been replaced? e.g. :::::::::::::: main_cb0b2720.log :::::::::::::: [22:32:39, engine/logging.cpp:301] Log started at: Mon Jun 20 22:32:39 2011 BST [22:32:39, engine/logging.cpp:304] version: 1.9.2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'server_address= game.eternal-lands.com', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'server_port= 2001 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'use_vertex_array= 1', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'use_mipmaps= 0 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'text_filter_replace= smeg', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'compass_north= 1 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'near_plane= 0.1 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'transparency_resolution_fix= 0', type 2 Sorry about glinfo it should have said Video card: GeForce 210/PCI/SSE2 Vendor ID: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07 data downloaded straight from el site. I am going to see if anything exists in the update that isn't in the main 1.9.2 release..i.e. install the update over what I now have. OK..Ive reinstalled everything, and its still the same No one has any legs below the knees, and ther are black squares round bits of the board. Otherwise all is working.. I am going to have a final stab at deleting the entire directory and reinstalling just in case. RIGHT. I deleted the whole ***Ing lot and NOW the 1.9.2 client full install works. Probably no sounds music or bloodsucker apps..but that's soon fixed. Final update. it seems that if the update does not work, deleting everything except your ~/.elc directory and installing full client is a way to go. You will need to reinstall music and souns, if you want them, and any extras you may have added like bloodsucker maps. Also you will need the later versions of these. (DDS) old maps wont work Also for those that don't have ogg sound as native, and get errors opening /dev/dsp/ the same fix still work.. /use aoss as a wrapper.

OK. MANY of the problems have gone by taking stuff from the FULL new installation and stamping over the old directories. Why the update did not do that, I do not know. I now have clothing and hair back, eye candy works, no black borders round text.. but all players are lacking feet now. Boots? don't exist in my game! Also the squares on the board are still showing black.. Now I get errors from elconfig - should el.ini have been replaced? e.g. :::::::::::::: main_cb0b2720.log :::::::::::::: [22:32:39, engine/logging.cpp:301] Log started at: Mon Jun 20 22:32:39 2011 BST [22:32:39, engine/logging.cpp:304] version: 1.9.2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'server_address= game.eternal-lands.com', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'server_port= 2001 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'use_vertex_array= 1', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'use_mipmaps= 0 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'text_filter_replace= smeg', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'compass_north= 1 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'near_plane= 0.1 ', type 2 [22:32:39, elconfig.c:1460] Error: Can't find var 'transparency_resolution_fix= 0', type 2 Sorry about glinfo it should have said Video card: GeForce 210/PCI/SSE2 Vendor ID: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07 data downloaded straight from el site. I am going to see if anything exists in the update that isn't in the main 1.9.2 release..i.e. install the update over what I now have.

I get it even with update..Linux. Mm. Some progress. partial I notices stuff in error logs 'cant find..size wrong' etc.. so have deleted el/meshes and el/textures and reinstalled these directories from FULL installation. Hair and clothes back eye candy works but my BOOTS HAVE VANISHED!!! also squares on board still borked..

I get it even with update..Linux.