falonor

2.2 million people and 2100 Sydney businesses turned off their lights for one hour - Earth Hour - March 29, 2008. According to their information, the greenhouse reduction achieved in the Sydney CBD during Earth Hour was sustained for a year, it would be equivalent to taking 48,616 cars off the road for a year. This year many major global cities are joining Earth Hour in 2008, and they're are turning a symbolic event into a global movement. Visit these links and you can aslo search on google - state your opinion - and maybe EL would have such an Hour as well : http://www.universetoday.com/2008/03/22/co...arth-hour-2008/ and a youtube video - comment on it if you'd like but better do it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qczUcQ-VjM Post Scriptum if you are romanian - check this out as well http://www.ecomagazin.ro/ora-pamantului

This is indeed a solution and a part of the change - as cleaner sources of energy is a desirable thing too . All your comments are great , does not even compare to what you see on net,and for example on youtube . EDIT : next year this event can grow and more people that care and would think of how to turn a symbolic gesture into action would join in !

Yes...indeed,the Ozone layer is affected by certain chemicals,refrigerators and sprays had a part in that. But not only. I'd look more into it myself and also wait for your up-date Dunian. + I personally am not one of those people to say that turning the lights of will save the Earth , but it sure will be a powerful signal and a peaceful way to manifest and protest against abusive consumption of energy,for alternative energy sources . This can be done only when people stand together - and it has been seen since history starting with the early rebellions,revolutions and now-a-days with peaceful meetings organized with the purpose to be a Signal of Alarm - this is what I consider this action to be and this is what it meant to me,people I've spoken and found this great in one word - of course it has some pompous campaign to it,but you can't have it otherwise...or can you ? and if you need examples of manifestations that changed the world we live in - some of contemporaneity to us-I'd sure be glad to document this more . EIDT : should have posted it in off topic in the first place - do hope to get more visitors even now like the discussions that have started here. also what they promise as enquire , research , information , small pleasant debates .

Da....am prins si eu cativa ani din acea perioada de " Glorie " - nu era impotriva regulilor sa scriem in alta limba ? Sincer...sper ca nu ! The thing that is mostly affecting our planet is pollution which is meddling with our Ozone Lair - thus our planet and us humans are exposed to more radiation. Is not a question of life surviving on this Earth , but wether this planet would be a suitable place for us to live in . Pollution is massively caused by gas emissions , burnt oil-fuels , a power-plants dumping residual matters in the streams that end up eventually in some sea and even ocean . Also ecological disasters . Now...talking about conspiracy theories and global warming man-kind has been fascinated with weather since the dawn of tine. Scientifically it is proven to be ways of influencing weather . And maybe some would benefit for some ice caps to melt - water could be the next " oil " of the Planet sooner than we think with the dessert " pushing forward " and huge consumption of fresh water ; - if we start referring to conspiracy theories - Look at the big picture , the masses can influence companies - without the masses nothing can be actually achieved . EDIT : yes...indeed,the Ozon layer is affected by certain chemicals,refrigerators and sprays had a part in that. But not only. I'd look more into it myself and also wait for your up-date Dunian.

It is a public concern - if we can help be a part of the solution and not the problem. Well - just for the record - here in Bucharest and all over the country in Romania - a lot of us " celebrated " this day . I've spent a quiet dinner at the light of candles after unplugging all electricity appliances and turning everything off . It is a symbolic hour - this is how I see it . BTW - which one " turn off " for Earth Hour or do you have any friends - family that did so ? Unfortunately in most cases people found out a bit to late - not everywhere the campaign was lead as it should have . In enclosure - how was your 2008 March the 29th Earth Hour ?

In my own perception I see this as a gesture and opportunity for people to come together. As you saw in that vide-clip , companies , institutions , and entire communities pitched in and joined the campaign. Of course the power-industry does not desire such a thing - it is a stress for them to see the high demand of clean energy and that people start to wise up . Why ?! It is simple - because the clean sources of energy are extremely expensive unlike the traditional ones such as coal and oil and because energy is somewhat linked to the Oil Industry as well . My lights will go off at 8PM Local Romania Time - this enspired me to think of better energy sources more seriously no matter the cost. Do tell if you heard more about this and if you know others doing it !

forgot if I did reply here - if I did it before - delete my post and excuse me. my first guild was The Sky Above , quite some time ago . thanks

The way we do things is to usually recruit personally,using the forums is just another way of saying 'we are here and we are the best' . Of course there are stronger older guilds , with more-less gamers . That is not the point here. What realy matter , are the facts : ~ We are very active , in half a day we have 12 EL guild registered members ; less than a week we got our forums up and running covering areas from general-off topic to projects,quests and contests ; in this time to the guild's forums are registered 21 members ; ~ Having low-medium and passed 45 skill levels members is a plus to being able to work on different aspects and support each other.We are currently covering areas as Alchemy , Crafting , Manufacturing , Potions as well as magic and summoning at the end of the list. ~ Some of the members a \ d exceed level 56 having more than half members with high emu capacity. I one am not the best of people's person , can just say that the fellow guild members are great , fun to be with ; we are flexible and thus adapt to all of the needs in gaming , also when it comes to knowing each other , spending some quality time . Fun is Fun and Projects are Projects . Joking and feeling comfortable is part of the game , but this guild would not exist if we were not here for leveling and making more XP and faster (we could have made an mIrc channel and chat along Our goals are to level each end every member according to their needs , abilities and knowledge. If you know a bit about EL then you might have an idea regarding to this. If you are just quite fresh with some of the game's aspects , , if you want to help others and \ or be helped , then this is the place to be We do not impose nor require anything from you except being quite sociable , having a sincere desire to be helped and help and giving yourself patience within EL and our Community . All the internal rules of EL are encouraged to be respected. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be accepted , a plus might prove to be your dedication to the game. As well as other advantages shall prove to be your experience with this game or other RPGs and similar games as well as having an open mind to change and being dynamic within game play > At the present moment we are looking for Crafter with level around 25 , as well as Potioner arround level 32 and training or experienced Mage with skill that varies starting from level 5 magic. > Any people are more than welcomed to give a short interview , being asked questions and requesting details if needed. As well as having the chance from both sides and for the hope of mutual benefit , to have a trial period spent among our most active , dedicated and devoted members. Already Thinking about it ? Easy , you know what to do,PM or Gossip either aliliana , facelessmonk or falonor within EL , reply here , and \ or PM on forums. See you inside Mighty Warrior. === Veni___Vedi___Vici === +++++I came I saw I conquered+++++ _ - NOTE: Friendly guild, in half day of activity allied with TSA , PB&J , JFA , {><} . Negotiating and having talks to other guilds for the purpose of alliance \ teaming up . NONpk guild also neutral in wars ; encourage aiding others ; returning DeathBags and helping the entire EL community.

omg, can't you guys just use a bit less painful fonts? Your post doesn't have to be HUGE and BLINKY to catch our eyes >.< lol , true true , niiicee a hide and seek contest....do make it as original and hard as it can get as long as everybody will consider it fun Good luck to everyone,hope to be more and more contestants ! How about extra prizes ? people being able to donate to the cause ? etc ?

i used to know to do this kind of ecuations....but never went to deep with ' maths ' ; prefered geometry , phisics , foreign languages... the thing is , I gave it a go ; don't think I will solve it and besides it is the first Chrismas day , so it is time to celebrate with family and friends. AFK , but please , when it is over , if you can and wish to explain how to resolve the ecuation since it would be nice for all of us to know , and I'd shake some rust off my math-bones. thank you,hope it is not to much of a request. Good luck to every participants and a Merry Christmas , have the best Holidays ever

This is what I did : ~ un-instaled EL 1.40 , deleted all remaining files ; ~ downloaded the EL.exe file ; ran the instal ; ~ the game's folder is in the default path > C:\Program Files\Eternal Lands It is a clean Windows XP SP 2 instal after formating the C: partition . All drivers instaled and updated . All win updates available as well . This is what I encountered : ~ upon loading EL , been prompted to choose the server's language ; default is " Select English Language " ; trying to hit save would not work and the game is stuck to that point . ~ this is the third time I fresh instal EL 1.5 ;the first time, when providing a User and Pass was not able to click Login ; if I hit Enter ,the game closed automaticaly ; in case I tried to create a new character , the game froze . Hardware : AMD Sempron 2400+ ; 1.6 GHz ; 512 MB of RAM Radeon 9200 Pro AGP ; 500 MHz ; 128 MB also plenty of hard drive space ; 7200 RPM , if it even counts Bottom line , how can I succesfuly make EL work ? Also can u tell me what file/s to modify so that the game would automaticaly recognize English as default server language ; and what files , if possible , can be altered succesfuly so EL sets my User and Pass also automaticaly and attempts to log ? Hope this post is in the right place and pray it is not to much of a fuss ; can't stand bugs !

El can simply not start , block while loading , also it can be unable to login . It might shut down after logging , alter your display and window size . Or , you can end up being able to login successfully but having the game freeze or crash in certain areas or doing specific actions. These are troubles I encountered . Most of them are solved to a satisfactory extent . If your game can not load or start,that can mean the installation is corrupt. You have to delete Your EL 1.50 installation folder and the C:\Documents and Settings\"user name"\My Documents\Eternal Lands. Before installing the game make sure you have all your hardware working properly and all drivers installed and updated . Best to use your provider's original software Online or if u have a CD for it . Have the latest DirectX version , DX 9.0 works fine for me. Run all DirectX tets . Be sure to have enough drive space available for your system to work properly and virtual memory as well . Choose a mirror then save the kit to disk,install the game ( make sure to set the installation path of EL in case you change the default location; look under EL.INI for #data_dir and write / paste the full correct path where the game is installed ) Do not alter any EL files , simply click and run EL , try to log in and just play EL without changing any settings as long as it works . If you know you have a slower PC , then set your system to adjust for best performance , do not use software or hardware acceleration options. Before even opening EL you might consider using the " Program Compatibility Wizard " Under Start - Programs - Accesories . My first problem was the fact I had instaled two drivers for Graphic Adapters , you have to make sure you have only one Graphic Adapter installed . Windows did find two Display Adapters in my case and I had to uninstall all video drivers , reboot , install the driver for my ATI Radeon Card,disable the other Display Adapter(windows still prompted me to install it's drivers;cancel) Passable for Edit ^ .

The Only Problems that I had so far were : 1. not being able to connect to the game at all - loading but not displaying the user login window or freezing when asked to choose a language . - froze when trying to login or to create a new account ; 2. EL loaded when login but it altered the screen resolution for EL and apparently switched to full-screen mode ( ignored the settings ) then it crashed and exited automatically ; 3. logged in but this time EL or / and the PC froze or crashed in certain areas while simply moving around ; noticed a few graphic display errors , mixed textures or changed layouts looking exactly like objects show on 3D Studio when compiling them. If Any other problems , everything will go here,to keep everyone posted and hopefully the info will be useful to anyone that might read it . Areas I had problems in were TG's Sto and N Red Moon Library , at least u know to avoid those areas , or try them and see what happens .

Downloaded the EXE file . copied it into the EL game's folder , double-clicked the EXE downloaded file . el_notiles_noclusters.exe effect : loads faster than the basic EL.EXE ; automatically changes game's window resolution to 800x600 ; after login , instead of showing the game , it exits immediately . After that , I deleted it and ran EL.EXE simple , turns out EL.EXE si acting the same way now , although before that it worked fine [ except it's crashes for the game and operating system , and constant freezing ]

Details regarding EL are not of such importance , what I can say is that the problems described below repeated them selves in different areas , inside two different buildings of two different maps . Also had not such problems inside a cave filled with creatures,while attacking. Image got scrambled , some issue that was with 1.40 too - fixed this and it did not repeat . Game froze repetitively,independent of FPS - I did not grue nor timed out . Monitor flickered into black,everything was resumed as it was . Noticed that when it resumed , windows had configured hardware acceleration for the display troubleshooter as far as to " Disable all cursor and advanced drawing accelerations "( used to correct drawing problems ) Also got an error message from the ATI Catalyst . Thou I used minimum graphic settings both within windows and el.ini , nothing adjusted , problems persisted. Ocasionaly PC froze too,completely,nothing functional. Upon choosing " poor man " option , monitor went to black but did not resume as usual ; had to reboot . Read something in the forums similar in a way , but I found no similar errors in my logs only these : Error: Can't open file "quest.log" and endless " Unknown sound " or " Unknown battlecry sound " lines After rebooting got a Microsoft Error report , probably cause of the forced reboot. Choose poor-man again and this time Windows Crashed cause one of the Video Card's files , dumping and the works . Got so far two different system error reports plus another one from the Video Card Software : Windows XP SP 2 2002 Latest ATI Driver from it's roots ( downloaded from the oficial site ) DirectX 9.0 - ran all the tests OK All Drivers installed for all the components , except the on-board video-card ( un-installed all it's drivers , windows stil recognizes it and wishes to install at every start up ; left the " display-adapter " with no drivers , and disabled it ; did this so I could start EL - wrote about this in the previous topic ) Hardware : Processor - AMD Sempron 2400 + ; 1.80 GHz 512 MB of RAM ; Video Card - ATI Radeon 9250 Sound - Realtek AC97 Audio for VIA Audio Controller Fresh formatted partition , fresh windows instal , fresh EL download and install after previously installed all Drivers for the Mother Board , ATI Video Card , Monitor ; all drivers are certified , all devices are working properly and DirectX tested . Will put EL to some gaming tests and post if any new information . Am willing to answer to any questions that might lead to solving this issue .

In adition : Ran EL with in game's lowest settings , including highest settings - NO changes and no differences Used different Windows , software configurations , no improvement , same issue . Interesting is the fact that when I activated " poor man " , tried to move inside N Red-Mon Library, Game Froze , followed by crashing Windows due to an ATI file in system32 . Also , when activating only ATI bug option inside the Library , clicking did not move ; with both options moving around worked , but game froze and did not respond as well as everything else just before the character could make it's last step to stand in the spot I gave it to move to . If both options are de-activated , the ATI bug and the other bug related one , everything blocks down having no other alternative but to restart my PC manually Game also causes similar problems when zooming in / out ; rotating camera , changing perspective . And since then I am not even able to re log to EL anymore - got the original EL.INI file copied and pasted ( changed the resolution lower , the game did not accept any changes in res mode - it went directly to 800 x 600 regardless the res chosen after it previously was to 1024 x 768 ; next thing..when logging in , EL exits automatically ) No error logs , no chat log records. Can provide some info from either of them. EDIT YeeeY EL finally works smooth and almost perfect . Just a few minutes ago simply double clicked EL.EXE , logged , and guess what -> it runs like a charm. Here are the steps I made : - left my system recommended hardware - software acceleration ( it depends on each one's PC ) - had the original drivers previously installed ( thou before , with the same drivers , the game did not work ) - did not made any changes in the EL.INI before starting except to provide the install path for EL . simply logged in , and upon entering DID NOT zoom out , DID not modify any options , and tried to move around in the same place I had problems before with crashes and freezes - IT WORKED . Only thing is , if I over solicit EL by moving frenetically , rotating , casting , using items , NPC interacting as many actions as possible at the same time , I still get a freeze time for EL only , but far shorter than before. It really seems there are some areas of EL that present these issue , unlike others. I personally got troubles in Tarsengaard Storage and in North Red Moon Library . If any other events involving crashes , freezing , any kind of problems , I will simply edit and add them to the list so a wider spectrum of what is going on can be compiled to have a better overview of the situation ; it really might help for all players to report where is that they are encountering problems Hope this would be of help .

I have seen this issue with someone else. Even with the sound turned off in EL.INI, you will get this error if you have a sound_config.xml from a previous version of EL. This file should be in "C:\Program Files\Eternal Lands\Sound". Try downloading el_sound_150.zip from the game download page (if you haven't already) and extract it to your "C:\Program Files\Eternal Lands" folder with the "preserve folders" option turned on. If you have two "Sound" folders (ie, "C:\Program Files\Eternal Lands\Sound\Sound"), it means you have extracted the files to the wrong place and you're still using the old version. But... that particular sound issue shouldn't freeze your client. The freezing seems to be related to your graphics card and/or settings. Double-check that you have the latest drivers for your card and the latest version of DirectX. Also make sure that you only have one driver installed for your card - you can check this in My Computer (right-click) / Properties / Hardware / Device Manager. If you have more than one "Display adapter" listed, delete them all, reboot, and then reinstall the latest graphics driver for your card. Good luck. Thank you a million , that did it w00t I had two drivers instaled and functional , working for the worst . I just can't thank you all enough , and especialy Ryala , you are the real deal , software wizz and hardware guru u pin pointed exactly what was the problem

That was done ages ago and it did not help. My problem seems near identical to yours. Same computer Same Ram Celeron 733 mhz Intel 82810 infernally integrated graphics chip same error log. even wrote a topic about it , hope it is as specific it can get [link]http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39332[/link] good luck everyone Both el.inis are identical and lowballed to the max, poor man on, sound and music off. The data_dir is pointing to the installed loc. The desktop icon points to the installed loc. ("C:\Program Files\Eternal Lands\el.exe") Nothing. Unless yours is working now because you have the..erm..bigger Celeron? got the same problem , I have another hardware configuration ; it seems it is persistant even with the lowest settings , every effect disabled can someone provide a link with some useful patches since El.INI settings seem to do no good ? got a topic started as well , hope that is as specific as it can get http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39332 anyways , hope we'll all enjoy the new update real soon

Thank you very much , doing that as we speak , hope it will work , thou I have some reservation since I already edited the EL.ini and have set the sound to 0 . Will get back at you with an edit and many thanks to you guys EDIT : stil having problems , stil not able to start the game the instal is clean ; default path ; EL.INI file edited to minimum settings , the two EL.INI files coincide sound , shadows are off . The game loads but frezes when requested to press the window to start thou I do get these errors : [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_shadow extension, not using it... [01:54:42] GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object extension found, using it. [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_EXT_framebuffer_object extension, not using it... [01:54:42] GL_EXT_draw_range_elements extension found, using it. [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two extension, not using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_fragment_program extension, not using it... [01:54:42] GL_ARB_vertex_program extension found, using it. [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_fragment_shader extension, not using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_vertex_shader extension, not using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_shader_objects extension, not using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_shading_language_100 extension, not usin [01:54:42] GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat extension found, NOT using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ARB_texture_rectangle extension, not using [01:54:42] GL_EXT_fog_coord extension found, NOT using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_ATI_texture_compression_3dc extension, not using it... [01:54:42] Couldn't find the GL_EXT_texture_compression_latc extension, not using it... [01:54:42] Framebuffer disabled (need newer driver) [01:54:52] Error opening sound configuration file It seems to be a conflict between what are the actual working features and related features that are not working properly or not working at all. Also might it have something to do with the ATI ? Should I edit some of the files , look for specific drivers or codecs ? What about the sound error ? What is up with that ? ( #enable_sound= 0 and #enable_music= 0 set in both EL.INI ) Please get back at me as soon as possible .

This happened in Palon Vertas @ the sto , rather free at that moment , just a few people around . Starting to Mix some Leather Helmets , it seamed funny to me , so I checked the Encyc . According to the encyclopedia , the minimum XP for this item is +50 ; manufacturing it gave me only +51 Xp , although my Rationality is above 6 , and multiple of 2 . Also worshiping Glilin with a positive rank of his followers . Seeing that , have sent a #help_me message , being advised to post here. Mixed other items as well , that gave me far more than the minimum XP stated in the Encyc And as a funny note , thought to post it here first , just before to make a demonstration in front of Glilin's temple , blocking all access " We demand that the Gods pay-up our XP ! "

lmao , just saw that when i tried to figure it out when the very-very hush-hush 'important meeting' is 'going' to take place . so....i looked at the posts dates hhhmm , so is this "coaliton' actualy in motion ? since the link does not work and no new one is provided here , on this topic. it seems kinda dead .... 2 years would have been enough for it to actualy 'exist' and work and if not....hey....there is always a second chance

Here Here, three cheers for that . ~ Well , why not ? If a bot would have the option to buy the NMT from you so you would not lose your investment , but also 'clean' sweep the NMTs that would eventually go breaking after all !? ~ The EL community would eventually adapt , an important thing , the only one that counts , is making the game more interesting and challenging as well as giving alternatives for people to level , advance but most importantly ~Have Fun~ ~ Everything brakes in life , under former communist regimes they tried to make things last for ever , and it was for the worse. ~ If the vote closes with the NMT staying the same by just one vote , i will slaw myself with a tit long (have em in sto - just ready , just in case ) , since i voted 'no' but actually 'changed' my mind . ~ The adrenaline rush of just thinking to witness a major change leaves me breathless , waiting to see how it will eventually turn out , and what -hopefully- will it be implemented .

~ agreed , but then , when would it be all the fun of such a poll ? and especially when not only that so many people participated , but interesting suggestions have been made ~ Like a NMT to brake , " cry me a river " Guess we'll just have to wait and see , who else would vote , and maybe to also say why so .

I agree ~ excuse me , but ' are we ' going to turn EL , or is the game going to turn out to be yet another game where you $$ pay for everything with your pay-pal , use your " what ever kind of credit card " ? etc etc .... ? hhmm ... sure that can be used , but to exclusively have only those kind of options that would surely drop the number of people playing it , now when it is having such PR . Think Entropy is to decide that after all. Thank you , and please , not another WoW !

As you can all see this is a very close vote , people are taking sides and it is turned into a hot topic , not only that it is so popular. Thou I personally voted to keep it unbreakable , i strongly belive a compromise would fit best. With another kind of cape resembling the actual NMT , in a breakable version , possibly having no more drops for the NMTs that now exist , will cause them to be a collectors's item worth zounds of GCs , $$ . Thus people owning the old version will definitely not risk to take into PK and lose it , will just use them to train , or maybe , just maybe , 'sell' the extra one's they have. It is an exciting poll , and if NMTs do degrade and eventually brake all should do so , the ones people own now as well , as not to give an unfair advantage over others ( i am sure there are a lot of experienced veteran players around here that might just not have a NMT ) <- go for it adding the feature to show the damaged rate they are in when trading , to avoid scams. LoL indeed , so even if i voted no , there are ways to cunter-balance it ( just a few ideas scouted on this topic ) as it has been said : ~ " No-more-tears stones " : acting like rosto and protecting your precious ghear from one breaking event . ~ buy stones that protect you for a certain amount of time. ~ have a bot to buy the NMT you own , trade it for a 'perk' ( but why not top that with a little extra , + 5 rosto stones maybe ? -just a thought , don't shoot - don't shoot- ) Also high levels Alchemists and / or Engineers could and might be able with combined skills , knowledge to obtain a special Essence / Stone you can 'use' so you won't break anything for 10 minutes ( as an example , take it and twist it as u like ) Why not have some potions doing that ? High levels mixing expensive / rare ingredients , give a chance to different skills to ' obtain a kind of NMT effect . One to be a pro Crafter also having a goal to make " NMT Crowns " , that DO brake -just a tad harder , but are passable for that . Tailoring , manufacturing the cape , only accessible to achieve such a product by high levels manufacturers. it can change in any possible way the EL community sees as fit , or it can stay the same , i am sure the 'veterans' here , as it has been pointed , will easily adapt , and us all will suck it up , and live with it Is there any possible way to be able to change my vote ? I hope that at least by posting this will count for Making NMTs Cloaks break , introducing more variety in the Game of EL , making it more exciting for all levels and all skills , having alternatives to the present NMT . Who needs an Eternal NMT cape when this game is here for ever to stay and the server as many have pointed can be over-flooded with NMTs if this is not to change in any way? Even with drop rate 0 , it has been said there are currently over 400 of such capes in game ? As a final thought , wish not to impose 'my' personal views , and respect everyone's opinions on this subject ; i have read many well spoken arguments , making this polemic seem ' eternal ' . But one way or the other , changes are part of our life , and this game is a virtual version of that , so let's make it as realistically as possible .