Beowulf

Hi all. I'd like to use this thread as a follow up thread from http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36837. I've considered taking the Skeptic Perk and have already started saving up 30kgc for it. I don't like astrology all that much, even though it adds a bit more dynamic to the game for many others. It makes training/PvP too complicated for me. I don't really know how it affects PK since I avoid PK. I'd like to use this thread to see how many fighters are thinking of doing the same. Have you have decided to take Skeptic or not?

My suggestion is: Get the cape. When you have higher oa (100-120+ oa), decide to get the perk or not then. You may decide you need the pp's for something else when you are higher level (and regret taking the perk = reset millions of exp), and when pp's are harder to come by. Why spend millions of gc on NMT?

As long as the NMT cape remains unbreakable, I would'nt take the perk. The cape is only 350-400k at the moment, compared to the millions of gc you would need to buy it. imo, any training done below chimeran wolves does not need NMT, its more of a luxury. I would consider any positive perk a waste of pp's when there is a cloak for the perk - even if I did have spare pp's and didnt need them for my p/c. But if for some reason the cape is unusable/made breakable then I would do like you described above and buy the perk - hopefully that is not before I can kill Yeti.

Nice. Hail the top summoners - new owners of KF.

Exactly - you suggested people only train on PK maps - unlike you, who trained on a PK map, but on Ogres. imo PK is dead because of neg tanks like you. I don't care - don't know why I bothered to post here. An irrational suggestion like this would never get implemented anyway. Sorry.

No, I don't. When you trained in PK since ogres I bet you didn't do ALL your training there, you must have trained on mobs also. You could PvP in KF few years ago, you can't do that now. PKing and training are two totally different things. Anyway, what you suggested was unreasonable. There are ways of making PK active without turning EL upside down. Look at the 'PK server' thread in General Chat.

So? Does that mean those fighters who don't PK would have to PK? Making XP gainable only on PK maps would clearly make fighting totally PK orientated. If you want more PK I suggest you PKers change your attitude, for a start.

Yes, I would be interested in playing - and yes, I would pay the fee. Great idea Ent! Even though I normally don't PK on the main server, I would try out the PK server. EDIT - Since it is a PK server, and the the economy won't be such a large factor I think it might be fun to have unlimited gc and everyone has the same stats. That way everyone can have the same amount of fun all the time, and can just focus on PK skills. I see shortage of money, and the fear of losing armors/rosto, as the main factor for PKers not PKing as much as they would like on the main server. Just a crazy thought.

Nvm.

imo gelly and ICD arent good for a fighter unless you are a PKer with high stats (like 120s a/d high high oa) and can become a perk tank (take all negative perks) or if you just mix.

Hydro.

No yet, but probably will. Back to training again, and want no complications. Thanks for perk option.

In training, defence exp is the best for oa (with def god its good combo) plus its good when you can pvp with someone as well. Focusing on defence exp also helps you get to fluffies asap. I've never tested it but I presume as long as you have high instinct (high reaction cross attribute that makes you dodge more hits) you can suck lots of def exp out of monsters without landing too many hits. Your dexterity (determines the amount of successful hits you land every round) from low reasoning/coordination will be very low so you will kill the monster very slowly. If you take 100% reasoning, you will not be able to defend yourself as you wont have any reaction cross attributes. 50% reasoning and instinct is the same as 100% coordination (coordination has both dexterity and reaction). Maybe I will make an alt to test instinct build. Hope I helped.

BaxCy and Kjata of DRAC please. Also, if possible, i'd like to request a forum name change for myself to Hydro, in accordance with my name change ingame. I've already tried contacting forum authorities. Thankyou in advance.

many n44b fighters are power hungry and dont develop a strategy, so they get anti perk before yeti and cutting off easiest source of gc for trainig supplies (blue lupines, trik npc) thats why they are poor, anyway you can get both good gc and decent xp the changes in drops i think are a way off getting fighters to do something other than a/d anyway i make money from training cause i make my own supplies (2 inorg+4vegetal nexus) - Hydro

im the same as burfoot i will train good days or bad because thats all i do, train on a bad day (i think its a bad day) with degrade=-360, accuracy=-1, defence=-1, magic=-4, to damage=-2, to hit=-4 - i notice im taking more damage than i would normally, almost two restores per male orc (i have only 70 hp) and breaking alot of stuff (mostly leathers, bone, steel shield), because i also keep low p/c in terms of exp per hour only 60k not usual 80-90k i have to spend more now for training on bad days but i'll cope with it - Hydro

keep p/c low for ogres like ~20/24 so you can TS and get good exp until cyc level 80 def but thats just my style i like keping small p/c - hydro

Was lucky enough to find one. Starting bid 60k, no lower. Accepting: - GC - Reasoning removal stone (equivalent to 20kgc) - up to 14k diamonds Hmm, buy now price of 100k. Ingame name Hydro.

Received an offer for 70k EDIT - SOLD.

Bid withdrawn.

no one should be forced to PK, something some fighters actually avoid but if its only 6 hours it doesnt really matter - hydro

saving up gc for diamonds, then mixing ~25k? AE to train my magic to 49 after that, i hope i wont have to mix on such a largescale anymore and continue training a/d - hydro

SL7Y is recruiting. SL7Y is a training guild primarily focused on building up the strength of our characters. Even though this is NOT primarily a PK guild and we discourage PK (with the exception of PvP), honourable PK is also allowed Requirements: A mature and fun attitude towards fighting - since thats what i believe makes a good fighter no level requirements are needed. Contact Hydro ingame. Have fun ya'll

i used to do that when it was cheap, before IEDP perk, but now bones are too expensive

Magic is very expensive, which is the reason why its so time consuming. Cast shield to level 21, at which level you can restore. If you train attack/defence, use restore to heal and carry ~20 BRs+diss rings with you incase you fail restores. Either that or cast shield until magic level 35. At level 35 use magic potions (this gives you 5 increase in magic for level 40 which is required to cast mana drain) and mana drain another player OR mana drain large spiders while carrying a sword. Magpielee of NUFC guild made a good mana drain guide http://www.freewebs.com/magpielee/tipsnhints.htm Shield/restore/mana drain are all good spells to level to 40. Most people level to magic 49, at which level you quit failing restoration.