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  1. Posted · Report reply

    I am still up for the copying idea I just think more needs to be looked into it.

     

    What we need is Ents views on this and what he is willing to do, a clarification of what will happen and what wont. there still many questions un answered

     

    Like i keep saying unless 30+players want to copy there chars over then i don't think they will stay anyway and as for getting pkers over here then we will have to listen to them and what they want.

     

    What i think would be the best idea at the moment would be for Radu or even Asgnny to make a post in the main forum if he makes it then it will be taken seriously. Asking mains players what they would want to come over here or to be copied over here and what would make this server more attractive to them. then see what they come up with.

     

    From that Radu would decide what would be for the best for both us and then and put the proposal to us. But if either of these guys are prepared to put some time into this we would probably have to have some give and take if we want to make this place a busier one

     

    Handy

  2. Posted · Report reply

    I kind of like the idea of having the combat mechanics in sync with main server for balancing purposes.

     

    If we have cooldown like main, baring the food cooldowns as some have mentioned, it would make life harder (ie invasions/instances/higher level montsers in particular) but that's how hard players on main have it anyway. If we die easier and quicker, then more Rostogols will be needed, therefore more shop purchases would probably result. PvP would be shorter but I think it would add extra strategy to survive PvP. Existing players may need to devote more points for ethereal points, but that includes myself too. It would make some magic great swords have more meaning too (part of why it might be best to keep combat mechanics in sync between different servers and maybe less headache for radu, and why making srs non stackable would be a balance regression) :P

     

    Some times I ask myself where do some people come up with these ideas.

    Either I'm drunk to understand it in a way that I consider it another stupid idea, or someone else was drunk when they typed!

     

    Yes I can be aggressive with words some times. Why on Teh God's Realm would anyone want a PK server resembling the Main one? If we did, why go on the PK Server one? All those who like Pking on main do it because they know when they are going to do it.

    They just can't stand the idea of being PKed without a full inventory and uber weapons and armor, otherwise the PK Server would be full already, but it's not.

     

    Having a different server, with different aspects, was what made me change after 2 years playing a character with decent skills and start from scratch.

     

    But, I'm probably not setting my point or anything... :(

     

     

    Like you have said many times you are not a pker and never wanted to be So I guess you never really understand the excitement of actual Pking.

    On the pk server There is no real skill to Pking no real excitement to pking and to be honest its plain boring.

    At the beginning when levels were low yes everyone was going around killing each other and the excitement was there. But now there is no such thing on this server unless you like going around killing harvesters.

     

    Its not about High end weapons and armor its about tac tics and actual player set up making use of what is available, quick reactions, Its about getting your Adrenalin going.

     

    This server was meant to have all that and to get to that stage still needs fine tuning and can be achieved.

     

    Why on Teh God's Realm would anyone want a PK server resembling the Main one?

     

    It will always resemble the main because its basically the same game. But even you call it the PK server so surely it should resemble Pking?

    If you want a mixing server or a walk in the park server then maybe the main server is better suited to you.

     

    I want the PK server to become what it was meant to have been a PK server no just a walk in the park server yeh great i can kill a ice dragon with my 100 a/d, I think i was in my 70's a/d when i killed my first one just by click them srs one after another LMAO I'm Da man what is next for me to fight'.

     

    Where is the challenge?

     

    Anyway the cooldown Idea, i had a response from Ent and he said either we have cool down on everything or we keep it the way it is

     

    SO cool down just on rings and pots is not an Option at this stage

     

     

    Handy

  3. Posted · Report reply

    when i voted yes this is what i posted

     

    One stipulation i would have liked to of added and maybe Radu will take into account

    This would be no good if only a 1 or 2 players got a char copied over from the main server so maybe a minimum to start it off. Similar to when the pk server was originally started we needed at least 100 players interested before Ent would start it

     

    And i think that is valid

    What am not sure about at the moment is how many people are actually interested in this idea from the main server I personally would have liked more feed back from them and get some sort of idea of how many would want to come over here and play if any.

     

    What i dont want to happen is for this to go ahead and find out all we get is some players copying chars just to make some $$ and ending up with no higher player base than we have now.

     

    OK some of the people that play here now are more likely to stay if they can copy a higher lvl char over. But I'm not sure its worth the risk.

     

    Also the idea of putting cool down on pots and rings (which would help pk also bring more interest to this server from main) I got a reply from Ent and respect his decision. we could have either one or the other as it is now or cool down back on everything which would include food :icon13: so that is not an option

     

    So i am changing my vote to No

     

     

    Unless the stipulation i have mentioned was in the proposal At least 30 new players were to be copied over in the first lot

     

    Handy

  7. Posted · Report reply

    I'm not that keen on this idea even if I could benefit myself from it.

     

    Speculation: Maybe a load of highish characters will get copied, but once the new comers get bored they will dump their chars selling them left and right. So now existing players don't have to work at it, they just buy from an array decent cheap characters. It also feels like it would make a mockery of the hard work existing players have done on pk server, all while sacrificing the large player population main has for interacting with.

     

    Rant: Why did I spend over a year on pk server leveling when I could of continued to play on main instead, and advance my non a/d skills while I wait for THE CHAR COPY to come around one day?

     

    Anyway if it has to go through then let it be:

    Copy Allowed IF [(A+D)/2<=90 & A<=100 & D<=100]

    Instead of just IF [A<=90 & D<=90] :P

     

    I have taken that as a NO ans edited the post accordingly

     

    Handy

  11. Posted · Report reply

    As it not worth me putting these on odin i can still make if you need but there will be a minimium amout

     

     

    Manu 50 pots for 2000gc

    summoning pots 50 pots for 5000gc

    Craft pots 50 pots for 7000gc

    Engine pots 20 pots for 6000gc

     

    forum pm me or catch me in game

     

    thanks Handy

  12. Posted · Report reply

    Since the main vote is coming to an end, anyone who wishes to have some information about implications of this feature, feel free to ask.

    Its much better to discuss things here then on the voting page.

     

    I have a question;

    -Is AP/Skeptic copied too?

     

     

    So I voted NO with the reason:

    More chars, but no guarantee we get ~half that many players or more. If we get too little extra players, that means there will be more accounts for everyone (basically...) so current levels (time investments) are worth less in that case.

     

    If however, this option and certain other changes to the server will make the server much more interesting, char copying over a limited timespan (to prevent flooding/abuse) may indeed introduce a lot more players, reviving the server.

     

    We basically do not know, and I suggest we take a more fool-proof solution, where the account on main also looses something (that could be the account or a reset, maybe more then 15$..).

     

     

    The main worry is players that already play just copy over their high end mixers from main of maybe fighter so yes more chars but no more players that is why i posted the following when i said yes to the proposal

     

    My Vote is YES for the proposal

     

    One stipulation i would have liked to of added and maybe Radu will take into account

    This would be no good if only a 1 or 2 players got a char copied over from the main server so maybe a minuim to start it off. Similar to when the pk server was originally started we needed at least 100 players interested before Ent would start it

     

    At least 20 char's needed to be in the first batch to come over here to start this idea then individually after that

     

     

    It says 20 but maybe it would be better at 30 and instead of chars it should of said new players i.e mains people that dont currantly play over here

     

    Handy

  13. Posted · Edited by handyman · Report reply

    Votes for PK Char Copy Proposal

    Guys i know this is a very importaint step for the Pk server and loads of discusions are still going on. So below i have put a summory of the votes so far. If you are having second thoughts you are still able to post and change your vote Bkc will run this for a little while longer for you all to make sure you are all sure on your votes.

     

    Yes

     

    Patriot/Talon18

    Bkc56

    Goot/Bromber

    Chris

    Requiem

    Petroc

    Rogue

    Cyprom

    Shadow

    Spike

    Theno1jackass

    Andi_ROX

    KoDdy

    Piggy

     

    No

     

    ProHibited

    Rotation

    Yaser

    Area

    Dht

    DarkGuard

    Lewis carrol

    Handyman (Unless minimum of 30 new players were copied in the first batch then it would be a yes)

     

    Abstain

     

    Segor

     

    Im not going to go on again about pro's and con's just make sure you are happy with your vote and post if you want to change it

     

    Thanks Handyman

  16. Posted · Report reply

    May I ask what happens to the main server char? I assume it's unaffected, though I've never seen this stated clearly. It's a copy and not a transfer right?

     

    Then I would vote yes, though I am currently not an active player. I would use the service but I wouldn't get online for a few months.

    So, if my vote counts: Wroll = Yes

    If not, ignore :rolleyes:

     

     

    yes it is a copy so your mains char stays the same just like if you were to copy to the test server

     

    Handy

  17. Posted · Report reply

    The char copying will be fun stuff. Handy still in any contact with rayjack? That char has 80's manu and a/d enough to be moved. Great stuff, dragons are damn easy to kill and with some time hoarding binders you will make RD set in no time. Hell, make it ice set while at it. Will be so much fun trying to pass that armour with great swords.

     

    It is awesome. Just import the skill specialist friend chars you have and supply yourself with anything. You get few chars more, Ent gets moolah, server gets couple new faces who will leave just like when the server was started. Yay. Now you even get ready ranger chars in 40's and 50's with full AP, think about it. 900k gc saving with just 15 dollars and time saved from click click click.

     

    On the main topic, yes the cooldowns would make things more interesting. I doubt it'd make much difference in the overall population. It's more of a marketing challenge.

     

    dont need rayjack we have manu/potters/crafters in the 70's pushing 80's already over here Loader made a dragon blade and saving stones over a year ago before I left so the makin of dragon armor is not a problem its the Binding stones.

     

     

    I personaly prefer the cooldown idea rather than making srs not stackable, dont forget rings :rolleyes:

  18. Posted · Report reply

    For those that like Pking having cool down just on pots and rings would make pking alot more skillful and would put the excitement back into it

     

    For those that dont like to pk and prefer mixing it wont effect them as as would still be no cool down food and if anything they would end up busier if the player base increased

     

    One of the reasons why we dont get players is because what is the point when pking of standing there for an hour until someones srs run out there is no challenge.

     

    And if this idea was agreed on by us and passed by Ent before the copying from main started i feel it would bring alot more players over.

     

    The whole idea of the mains copying wasn't so players already playing could bring the mains over here to It was to get more people playing on this server

     

    Handy

  19. Posted · Edited by handyman · Report reply

    OK Yes i know more discussions

     

    First let me say i have send Ent a mail about this idea and waiting a response so this is just an idea that i want your views on, nothing set in stone or agreed on

     

    The proposal would be to put cool down back onto potions and rings only. Leaving food still with no cool down.

     

    The reasons for this

     

    Bring back the fun in Pking

    Back to using strategy

    Would attract more pkers from main

     

    At the moment there is no skill to pking its just who runs out of srs's or he's first or who has the most dis rings.

     

    All the mixers wont be effected because there would still be no cool down food the idea is just Potions and rings.

     

    OK it will mean i wont be able to kill dragons on this server on my own anymore but still could with help from others :pickaxe:

     

    I want to know your thoughts and ideas on this matter the pros and cons

     

    Handy

  20. Posted · Report reply

    I wonder if a cooldown hybrid would work. Something like:

     

    food - no cooldown to preserve the easier leveling of the PK server.

    pots/rings/etc - normal cooldown to add the complexity back into PK fights.

     

    Something like that might keep both the PKers and the non-fighters happy providing each the preferred environment for their style of game play.

     

     

     

     

    And yes, I've notice the thread hijack to yet another PK-server discussion. Oh well, whatever works.

     

    like i said put cooldown back on pots and rings

     

    i would go for that :P

  21. Posted · Edited by handyman · Report reply

    The pk server has no cooldown. Its really a road blocker for most people i have talked with. Its the main problem of that server.

     

    So that server is not "oldschool" pking. How can you die with stackable srs, dis rings with no cooldown and COL? Only if you aren't really paying attention.

     

     

    I do agree for more skillfull pking you need cooldown on srs brs and rings. and i personaly would sacrfice being able to kill icy and all the other high end mobs for better pking over on the pk server

     

    Handy

     

     

    OR if your opponent is stronger and does high dmg, you fail to restore every 2 seconds and you cast MI, making a 4 second gap between restores, you get harmed, you get summoned on, you get gangraped, you get cooldowned by white tigers or ice bolts, etc etc. I always thought that the pkers know many ways to kill their opponent instead of clicking alt+1 and ctrl+1 all the time when fighting.

     

    Took on the whole server once that was with rangers top fighters and mages and summons if you want skillful pking you need cooldown. The only way to loose at the moment is lagg or run out of srs's/he's

     

     

    Handy

  23. Posted · Report reply

    Thie reminds me of a few years ago every one was fed up and wanted changes so they came up with the idea to have a second server I would just like to say when this server was first talked about, SL7 asked me to come back to EL to be a part of a great new sever with loads of old school PKing. At the time is was what everyone on the main wanted.

    Like the discussions is see you are all having now over here. But most of them missed their high end armor and weapons and all the work they had to do to build new chars.

    If the new proposal go's through This could be a great opportunity for many of you to play both servers and the Pk server already has many of the things you are talking about. but this time you will be able to copy a char over so no need to spend a year or 2 building one.

     

    Handy

  24. Posted · Report reply

    I would just like to say when this server was first talked about, SL7 asked me to come back to EL to be apart of a great new sever with loads of old school PKing. At the time is was what everyone on the main wanted.

    Like the discussions is see you are all having now over there. But most of them missed their high end armor and weapons and all the work they had to do to biuld new chars.

    This could be a great opportunity for many of you to play both servers and this server already has many of the things you are talking about. but this time you will be able to copy a char over so no need to spend a year or 2 building one

     

    I have read all the comments the pro's and con's of this idea an do understand the concerns of some of you. Yes it will change the server maybe for good or maybe for a while we would have to see and yes ProHibited we have all worked hard leveling our chars for someone to pay $$ to bring an already leveled char over (one thing i will say that char would have had time spent on it to get it to that level on main).

     

    My Vote is YES for the proposal

    One stipulation i would have liked to of added and maybe Radu will take into account

    This would be no good if only a 1 or 2 players got a char copied over from the main server so maybe a minuim to start it off. Similar to when the pk server was originally started we needed at least 100 players interested before Ent would start it

     

    At least 20 char's needed to be in the first batch to come over here to start this idea then individually after that

     

    Handyman

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