agis29

Kheres mate feel free to disagree with me. You don't pk and you cant understand some things. Even if you get less exp you can train with safety in a non pk map for hours. If i train in a non pk map there is a chance to see my nmt cape getting branced. If i train with crappy armor and without col and nmt i may die from harm. And none is training casting magic immunity. This is good cause those things are enough to start a war between guilds. Anyway i hope that in the new pk server we will have fun and some useful conclusions will come out.

150k and 450k is an example as i said. It could be 250 and 320 or whatever. Same with gc. Kheres the game is already unbalanced. Players are forced not to pk. Pk doesn't offer something while all other skills do. Actually pker's become more poor after entering a pk map.

Mate i said that safe areas must exist. 1)Better drops means that if the average fluffy drops 5 gc in a normal map it should drop 10 in a pk map . 2)Better drops also means that if u want to get a nmt cape you should enter a pk map. No nmt and arti in safe maps 3)Better spawns means "remove all double spawns from safe maps and put them in pk maps". 4)Double exp means that if a fluffy now gives 300k per hour it should give 450 k in a pk map and 150 in a safe map. From the moment that safe areas exist you don't force anyone. If you want something better you must risk. As a manuer and a crafter i have a profit. As a pker i am losing money. And if things in pk wont change i am afraid that the game will be screwed for all of us. Edit 450k or 150k is an example.It could be 250k and 320K oe whatever. Same with gc.

It means risky training and also less exp in safe maps. Also it means that u must risk training with nmt in such a map. And if u go without nmt and col u may die from a noob that harmed you.

Honour points are just an example to show that players should have a motive to pk. If pk maps had better spawns, drops and giving double exp people would train there. Sooner or later someone would attack to a trainer to such a map. He would attack back either with his guildies or his friends. Thats how wars between 2 guilds usually start.Double exp and better drops are a motive too. I don't think that someone must be Einstein to understand it. Anyway if someone things that my suggestions or other people suggestions were a crap, instead of bitching like an egocentric kid, noobish flaming and trying to pretend the smart guy he can suggest something better. Sorry to say but personally i solved the "pk is dead" problem by playing wow.

There must be safe zones in the game. But by entering a pk map means that i may get branced, lose a rosto, waste he's and pots, waste summoning stones, see my expensive armor and weapons degraded, waste capes etc. What do i win? Pk points.. Is this enough? I don't think so. So pk maps should provide: 1)Better drops ( more gc, nmt and arti should be dropped only in pk maps) 2)Much more exp than normal maps. 3)Better spawns. 4)When you kill a player in a pk map and only if he is carrying a rosto there should be a chance to drop something good. (not from his inventory). EDIT: I am not pking in wow just for fun. I get honor points and with honor points i can buy extremely good items from an npc.

My point is that all skills are useful in the game. Pking is the only part of the game were players lose their money and they don't win anything. I don't ignore the rest of the community. And also i believe that pk is the most important thing to attract new players.

Today i learned that SOM, BROD,JS of cooling, cutlass of the mage and all special weapon and armors,evasion, accuracy pots,damage rings, rop's,rings of mana destruction,emp's, are for training purposes.

LOL. As Molime said (watch the proper capitalisation!) I would do exactly the same what I do right now. Guess what, I prefer chatting with harvesters than watching mufossa fight. Surprised? Well i am a manuer. So i will start making swords like cutlass,orc slayer,js and cols to put them in my inventory to watch them? And i will make steel cuisses of mana drain, tit plate of freezing and js of cooling to cooldown fluffies and manadrain essences? I am not surprised at all that you love chatting and i respect it. But i am not surprised at all also why so many players quit because pk is dead. And why the game has still only 600 players on line although it deserves to have 2000.

Noobs (many with nmt perk) use col for training. Pro's enter in TD with a col. The idea of reducing prices in those helmets isn't bad but I think that for many reasons tit helm's can't be so cheap. I don't think also that something will change if the prices will be cheaper. People are training with col and this won't change. And i like it to be honest. Tit helms with more hp's than col's is just an idea. The longer pk fights we have the better it is. This is my personal opinion of course and others may disagree. So col can be an item for training and tit helms with extra hp's for pk. Both items should be made from crafters and manuers. Something similar can be done for com's. Steel helm of mana with 150 mana and 80 extra hp's or something like that. This is mostly an idea for pure summoners.

HUH?! Sorry to say, but I completely disagree with you. PKers are NOT majority of the game. It's rather obvious. PKers are NOT the most important part of the game. Eternal Lands changed BEFORE DonPedro decided to leave, not after he did it. Same goes for Mufossa. Please, do not mess results with reasons. I'm not sure if we play the same game. The most important part... hmmmm... NAH. I respect your opinion. But if the game didn't have pker's i don't know what exactly alchers, manuers, harversters and crafters would do. Watch all the el videos in youtube. The most impressive are those with pk action. Pk is impressive and its the main thing that will attract more new players. The nicest day is the non drops day. Wanna see what will happen if all pker's quit? Sorry but i prefer watching mufossa fighting or pking myself than chatting with harvesters. If they aren't afk...

Just a small comment here: the reason helms are seldom used is because so many people are wearing a CoL. Even if there were cheaper/different, I doubt many would use them. That is true, but better to have them used by n00bs who cant afford CoL, or as a piece of training equipment, than just being something lying in storage or used to harv with to decrease radon damages. I sometimes go into KF/TD with iron helm, aug torso/pants, leather boots, titanium long and steel shield, in KF because normally people either just run/tele when they see me in full gear (or they are they are the Elite PK'ers who pwn my ass), and in TD because i don't want to get cooldowned by Toomass's JS of cooling and lose my pr0 gear. If anything at all, i want to look 'fashionable' when i die (lol) Well none is using them even for training. When players could buy cols only from the npc at port anitora i was training with an iron helmet. A tit helm offers only +1 additional armor bonus and its way more expensive. A tit helm with extra HP's bonus is better than a col but its more expensive. On the other hand nothing will change because everybody will be able to use it. So maybe it would be nice to have Col's for training and steel, tit, dragon helmets for pk.

People that risk and lose a lot of money while pking, should be rewarded.They deserve bonuses. I don't know if pker's are not the majority of the game. What i know is that pker's are probably the most important part of the game. Imagine how the game would be without Masterpiter, Luci, Toomass, ohmygod, Ambrosius etc. El changed when Don Pedro quit or later when Mufossa did the same. If those 2 were still active the game would be much much better. A few months ago players had fun by simply watching fights in nc arena. Anyway i respect harvesters and peaceful players but i don't know any MMORPG that became popular because of harvesting.

I agree with that. Personally i think that steel and tit helmets should provide more hp bonus than col's. +3 armor is nothing and the price of those helmets is very high. Iron helmets give +2 armor bonus and they are much much cheaper. Those kind of helmets could be made under both manu and crafting skill by mixing 1 col +1 helmet +some of the new materials of the engineering skill or something similar. Many players will thing that this suggestion is weird but in most mmorpg games helmets are providing more materials points than cols.

This idea is even better so i am in. Maybe we should be patient until Radu will add it and after that we can make suggestions to improve it.

Sounds fun. I agree with scarr that we don't need so many maps. I hope that we will be able to harvest silver at least without being pked. The only suggestion i would like to do is that we shouldn't need pps for nexuses. Plz make skills like manu,crafting etc oa based. Otherwise a manuer or a crafter will be weak again.

I doubt that there is any player that can get 500k per hour while training even at a double yeti spawn. In pvp things are different but its difficult to find the right pvp partner. Patience and knowledge of the game is required to get good exp and only a few players meet those requirements.

Hmm i think he removed pps from will and he added vitality and some pps to instict so that he wont hurt his pvp partner. This way he will be able to pvp for hours without having to restock. Maybe he ll keep training this way untill 160 def and after that yetis with the lowest possible coords and serving Mortos? But on the other hand he was always a fanatic Alluwen's follower ..

Before there was rosto, ppl still pked, not only hold hands on ip. Before that the economy was completely different. Yetis had much better drops and they were weaker, efe's were cheaper and players didn't save money to buy nexuses etc. Chims were dropping enriched essences also. There were players that had millions of gc in their inventory, People stopped to Pk when the changes in the economy happened and when leveling became so hard. If i had 2 millions in my inv i could afford to pk every day.

An exp limit is nice for a period (lets say 1 year without leveling). But not for ever. I think its boring not to level up at all or leveling up slowly. I think that the most interesting part in el is the way we level up and the way we get exp.

People are bitching because there is a small chance that brod will degrade an item. Guess what will happen if there is a chance to lose items from your inv. Altough we can protect ourselves with a red cape. Masterpiter's suggestion makes sense. Maybe its better to lose items that don't require a human nexus to wear. So that rosto will protect armor, weapons but not things like essences. My personal opinion is that pk should become another skill like attack and def. The more u pk or pvp the stronger u become against humans, dwarves etc. But not against monsters. So the more we pk the stronger we ll become against all el races.

Pk is already extremely expensive. Rostos are very expensive too. I disagree with every idea that makes the game more difficult and more expensive. Only noobs, idiots or someone with 140 coords will enter an arena without rosto. Even a 1% chance to lose a tit plate is enough to make someone not to enter a pk map. People don't pk because rostos cost 16K.If there is a chance to lose a nmt or a col do u think that they will enter a pk map? People pk during the non drop days because pk costs nothing that day(not exactly-its still expensive) Worst of all u may lose a plate cause u lagged or because a couple of players summoned tigers. On the other hand if u don't like rostos go to tahraji desert. If something must change about rostos and pk is their price and other fun spoilers like the cooldown time of summoning stones.

There is always Tahraji Desert...

And mine plz

I agree that magic should become more important. All spells should be level based including the duration of spells like magic immunity.