ArionBattleBorn

umm .. in case of ambiguity, i'll type again , and yes i take a long looong time to type "waste of racial points" doesn't come to it, as the chars would have it right from the begining , for free, that would not be waste, only a bonus. and why would you'r choice be limited? it's not that you CANT do what you want, you can build your char anyway you want, most successfull fighters i see summon and alc and well lol pretty much everything .. so what's the point? besides in a way this can actually add a little to the RP in the game, for instance you cant just kill somone born with the "oh so mighty dragon blood" and just get away with it lol and again what i suggested was just and ONLY just an example for the sake of illustration, nothing solid and well thought out ..

a little idea on the different races .. the perk sytstem is already inplace and has a lot of interesting perks that many do not use becuase they fear wasting thier pickpoints, so i would propose this : all chars dependant on race (or IMO logical assumptions about a race) have a certain perk once they create the char for instance Dragonie are dragon blood right? give them the self distruct perk dwarfs are good miners? give them the excavator perk elvs are magical creatures?, give them the Conjurer perk Orchens are though and a warrior race?, give them the fast regen perk gnomes are talented at crafting they take the artifactor perk.. the remaining perks in the game can be restricted for each race .. for instance the Orchens may never use the glow in the dark perk, while dwarfs have access to it.. yes it sounds a bit like a technologie tree thing .. for humans as they were already neutral towards all perks, they should have all the perks out there available to them if they wish.. as for charters already created .. couldn't those perks just be added to them? or just the pickpoints needed to aquire thier (racial perks)?? seems a lot easier than playing around with attributes and cross attributes (for the developers that is) just an idea .. might make the perks a little more interesting to players .. instead of all the work that has been put in the making of perks only to hear players say "ewwww ... perks! ... i'm perkless " seems like a waste to me .. ps: ttlanhil abviously posted his post while i was typing this down..

opps! lol well as long as they "have" been discussed. i'm happy, i did try searching for "buy land" and "guild buy land", only this is what i found this and a more irrelevent topic.. and .. well .. i guess lots of enthusiasts would sit down and think at 5:00 am in the morning when they havent slept for the past 24 hours if you happen to know a certain thread that is more recent, and wouldn't mind "leeding the sleepy", i would much appreciate it .. thank you. ps : love your cape

for starters i'd like to say that i find it amazing that EL is what it is now with such limited resources to the developers, it's truly an amazing effort .. i thank them for it .. for seconds .. Adding Strategy to an MMORPG would definatly be different than normal strategy games against Ai. far more dynamic in the least . , there are some Very good ideas in this thread, especially the keys idea, but .. generally Strategy is a tool to obtain and control recourses, if these propsed maps have no resources to controle and fight over .. it would be only an expantion of the current aimlesness of PK .. just on a far bigger scale , definatly fun , but pointless, and if the maps are closed then also what is the point of them? they would become ghost towns as players would generally like to be where all the action is, outside thier "closed" maps. One move that i find very good even if i havent really tried it yet is that the new Super Ores are accessable through a dangrous PK map .. but connecting the cave to a safe map simply defeats the point of controling recourses.. if you manage to pass into the mine make your load then you would have to risk going back through the PK map, that would lead to the creation of caravans for protection, hence leading to interdepandcies between players, which is the ONLY proper bases for a guild, if such an idea could be recreated in other maps, it would enrich the gameplay, ofcourse it does not need to be the Super Ores it could be anything .. as long as there is risk, teams of partners would be essential and that IS what guilds should be "Essential" .. it should be quite hard to controle a resource "piece of land" .. for a small guild to do so they must "ally" with otheres of the same interest, and propably a group of "vassel" landless guilds allied to one landed "Liege" guild, check "feudalism" if you are not familliar with the concept. and would actually stress more meaning on "code of conduct/honor/chivalry" and "ally". if the worrysome part about controling a point are the "hapless guards" what about that these points once secured for say 30~60 minutes with no players from any enemy/neutral guild gaining controle of them, would become unaccessable to others for say 2~3 days ? and then you can attack them again .. if they keep it against 3 consequtive attacks they hold that point for a full month .. that would actually cause the Enemy guild to have to rebuild it's strength after the defeat, gather allies and BUY new gear .. in some serious numbers and propably at a high cost to prepare to take that point again .. ofcourse the winner guild would have to do almost the same .. better market value for items during wars and no more flooding the market .. another point are how would the "map keys" be obtainable by your enemies .. natural accidents are one thing .. more invasions on the safe maps? unscheduald tiny ones? an example idea is : say no one has been hunting grizzlies today in Nordcran, one grizzly begins feeling tough and starts auto attacking everything .. players/animals if that grizzlie is left without killing it would cause the other grizzlie to go wild too and begin a nice circle of distruction .. horrid am i not .. well in such a case you'll need a "hero" to show up and kill the beast/beasts .. "good bases for recruitment for guilds? .. inspiring loyalty to the hero? as in "this somone actually did something for me, mmm ... usefull?" i hear that archery is coming in the game eventually, and a new combat system, that would be grand as it would give the smaller players some edge against the monsters .. ermm.. players that roam the maps lol but to be usfull archery should be ranged, and i mean reanged, not a couple of squares away from you .. it would be easy to recruit lots of "archres" and make them rain arrows on the toughest "single" player out there and lets see who rocks! ofcourse if their target has sufficent magic/armor/health/companion he could take down most of them but at a great loss, "somone mentioned a ally calling horn somewhere on the forums?" and just to make things more INTERESTING .. maybe the whole guildie_dont_fight_guildie should be changed, maybe they could after confirming clicks on each other in PK maps .. i know it's off topic but i'm ranting here and picture this .. your guild has been fighting for ages to control a point that leads to an iron mine you need to controle, the guy holding that point for you just goeas ahead and does a #leave_guild on you for you'r enemie's favor ... because he's pissed enough at nother guildie for some reson .. wouldn't this whole set up ACTUALLY lead to guild members being selected? not just grabbed in by recruitment ? hence leading to a better quality of guilds .. ofcourse i'm not talking about the well established guilds here .. oh .. and while i'm yammering about this, there should be flags and banners (ingame) for the guilds to claim terretory with .. be on thier shields or capes maybe ? even the normal ones? i think it would be just an extra layer over say the Mirror cloak.. one last point .. actually making maps more dangerous and resorces controlled (other than the basic ones) would lead to the creation of a society in EL a living breathing world with interests and ideals that actually mean something .. not just boared PK'ers and whining players.. the worst thing about this game right now is that it does not promote "Group" development, there is no mechanism to share resources and "shared" is the key word here, it's all about "singular" development of skills and resources. OMG! i actually sat down and worte all this!!!! i'm hooked!! *smaks face with outspread palm* Edited : hopfully the typos

keep'em comeing lovly event , thanks and Greetz to the event team ps: i thought it was about time too , so i ignored a pahntom and a fem orc that were wandering away from me.. because "i didn't have time" lol

This is the behaviour i expect from a guild like IRON, i'm glad to know that my beliefe in your integrety was not missplaced, i thank you. i had every intention to wait and pm the leaders of IRON ingame when i logged back ingame, till i recived an email telling me of this post, i felt i had to second 1st_Warrior, as to clear any doubt about Kidberg. no compansation is needed , i thank you for the offer, it was my choice to "see" this out, and the gear was expendable, so no worries 1st_Warrior PM me ingame if you would like to coordinate

now this is unbelievable, these two actually seem to have developed a routine for scamming , the exact identical thing happend with me, only difference is, i had a feeling something was wrong and desided to up the stakes a bit.. i could afford to loose the gear i had on, and i like to figure "people" out. note: the periods of time between lines of converstation, i was talking to ppl about this, reciving info about Kidberg and IRON, my main goal was to get this log. i walked in there knowing and accepting that this propably was a trap. read the log (edited irrelevent data off it) , and i had no previous knowledge of either. and i have not read this post till now. [01:44:32] [PM from Kidberg: hi] [01:44:52] Welcome to White Stone, Lakeside Village [01:45:04] Resync with the server... [01:45:13] [PM to Kidberg: hello ] [01:45:35] [PM from Kidberg: i was wondering since me and u have a close ad if u would like to pvp?] this guy doesnt even know me! never talked before.. [01:46:25] [PM to Kidberg: do you have privacy on? if not may i check your stats?] [01:46:53] [PM from Kidberg: yes i have my privacy on but i will tell u my stats and if u dont believe me i will turn privacy off] [01:47:27] [PM to Kidberg: well it would be easier if you just run it off for a minute ] [01:47:36] [PM from Kidberg: k hold on] [01:47:45] [PM from Kidberg: k its off] [01:47:45] [PM to Kidberg: trun* it off] [01:47:52] [PM to Kidberg: k] [01:48:03] [PM to iknow: stats kidberg] [01:48:04] [PM from iknow: kidberg(IRON) Phys: 17, Coord: 17, Attack: 32, Defence: 36, Combat Level: 80.0] [01:48:05] [PM from iknow: Health: 50, Mana: 32, Magic: 17, Summoning: 5, Combat Level: 80.0] [01:48:28] [PM to iknow: skills kidberg] [01:48:29] [PM from iknow: kidberg(IRON) Pickpoints:0 , OA 36, Carry capacity: 340 EMU, Mana: 32] [01:48:29] [PM from iknow: ph: 17 co:17 re:4 wi:4 in:4 vi:4] [01:48:29] [PM from iknow: Mag:17 Har:28 Man:7 Alc:22 Pot:11 Sum:5 Cra:0] [01:48:39] [PM from Kidberg: so?] [01:48:48] [PM to Kidberg: done you may trun privacy back] [01:48:51] [PM from Kidberg: k] [01:48:57] [PM to Kidberg: thank you] [01:49:07] [PM from Kidberg: yes hold on i will be on in a sec] [01:49:12] [PM to Kidberg: tyt] [01:49:50] [PM from Kidberg: k] [01:51:31] [PM from Kidberg: so?] [01:51:50] [PM to Kidberg: so.. what are you exactly proposing ? ] [01:51:52] Welcome to Nordcarn [01:52:16] [PM from Kidberg: just a pvp battle to gain exp points, we will give dbs back if we die but we will try not to die] [01:53:13] [PM to Kidberg: you want to hold this at a certain spot ? or are you open to suggestions?] let me see how honest this guy is.... [01:53:37] [PM from Kidberg: i would like to do it at the tg magic school its more secretive there] [01:53:47] [PM from Kidberg: not a lot of people] [01:54:36] [PM to Kidberg: well, to be honest .. i would prefer irrillion it "is" far more secretive there] [01:55:02] [PM from Kidberg: i dont wont to go all the way to c2 though] [01:55:24] [PM to Kidberg: lol not me either atm , give me a sec ] [01:55:28] [PM from Kidberg: lets to to tg magic school] [01:55:29] [PM from Kidberg: k] [01:58:05] [PM from Kidberg: ...] [01:58:47] [PM to Kidberg: just trading at NC .. please hold on, i'm interested ] actually informing others of what i suspect is about to happen.. [01:58:51] [PM from Kidberg: ok] [01:59:40] [PM to Kidberg: wepons or bare handed? armor or not?] [02:00:12] [PM from Kidberg: take weapons just in case but i dont know if we will fight with them and bring good armor cause that gives better exp points] [02:02:19] [PM from Kidberg: brb] now i'm half way sure that he isn't so honest... [02:02:27] [PM to Kidberg: kk] [02:05:52] [PM from Kidberg: back] [02:06:10] [PM from Kidberg: u ready?] [02:06:14] [PM to Kidberg: deal, meet you at TG storage?] [02:06:18] [PM from Kidberg: k] [02:08:52] [PM from Kidberg: im here] [02:08:58] [PM to Kidberg: omw] [02:09:22] [PM to Kidberg: sorry for the dealy, just wrapping up lots of chats sorry] [02:09:26] [PM from Kidberg: stfu hoe] wonderfull language :S .. [02:09:34] [PM from Kidberg: sorry wrong pm] [02:09:35] [PM from Kidberg: lol] [02:09:44] [PM from Kidberg: thats alright] [02:09:44] [PM to Kidberg: i noticed] [02:09:57] [PM from Kidberg: sorry bout that] [02:12:52] [PM from Kidberg: were u at?] [02:13:06] [PM to Kidberg: almost to storage just picking up some veg] and making sure all i know know about this ... [02:13:49] [PM to Kidberg: you said good armor, what did you have in mind?] lets up the stakes a bit ... [02:14:00] [PM from Kidberg: what do u have?] [02:14:32] [PM to Kidberg: all but the new armor] [02:14:42] [PM from Kidberg: lets get full iron plate] [02:15:11] [PM to Kidberg: ok, if you think we wont be interrupted there] [02:15:26] [PM from Kidberg: i hope not ] [02:15:35] [PM from Kidberg: i dont think we will] [02:15:59] [PM to Kidberg: hmmn i'm thinking Ti. would be better for accuracy?] [02:16:29] [PM from Kidberg: titanium what?] [02:16:38] [PM to Kidberg: chainmail ofcourse lol] [02:16:52] [PM from Kidberg: ohh yeah if u want that] [02:17:02] [PM from Kidberg: that and cruisses and greaves] [02:18:12] [PM from Kidberg: u ready?] [02:18:52] [PM from Kidberg: u ready?] [02:18:55] [PM to Kidberg: one thing though, dont have enough potions ..] [02:19:02] [PM from Kidberg: what kind?] [02:19:03] [PM to Kidberg: i see you in plate?] [02:19:10] [PM from Kidberg: yeah] [02:19:17] [PM to Kidberg: alright, damn the accuracy ] [02:19:46] [PM to Kidberg: ready] [02:19:51] Kidberg: lets go [02:20:55] You entered the Mage School and magically everything seems to be way larger than outside. [02:21:30] [PM to Kidberg: btw. i'm not very familliar with the school] [02:21:37] [PM from Kidberg: just follow me] [02:21:49] You entered private area of the building. [02:22:04] ArionBattleBorn: lag [02:22:06] ArionBattleBorn :S [02:22:26] You entered Kitchen. [02:22:41] As You approach the trapdoor on the floor, You smell a stench of sewers and death... (PK area ahead!). [02:22:42] Kidberg: let me check and see if anyones in there [02:23:07] [PM to Kidberg: all clear?] [02:23:10] Kidberg: k yep [02:23:16] You went down to sewers (PK area). [02:23:20] Resync with the server... at this point DuECe walks in serp flshing, i have no sowrd at hand and lagging :S [02:23:25] Resync with the server... [02:23:29] You are under attack, you can't move. [02:23:34] ArionBattleBorn has become better at dying. [02:23:35] You have died and gone to the Underworld! [02:23:53] [PM to Kidberg: do you know him?] [02:24:04] [PM from Kidberg: no damn he must of follow us] [02:24:26] [PM to Kidberg: Duce i think was his name?] [02:24:31] [PM from Kidberg: i think so] [02:24:35] [PM from Kidberg: i got out quick] [02:24:40] [PM to Kidberg: dont see you down here] [02:24:48] [PM from Kidberg: i beamed] [02:24:55] [PM from Kidberg: out quick] [02:25:22] [PM from Kidberg: dang that sucks] [02:25:27] [PM from Kidberg: did u lose anything] [02:25:58] [PM to Kidberg: yes .. some expendable stuff] [02:26:05] [PM from Kidberg: dang man im sorry] [02:26:35] [PM from Kidberg: that sucks ] [02:26:50] [PM from Kidberg: i hate people like that] [02:29:15] [PM from Kidberg: that sucks i dont even want to train now] <-- such an emotional chap, lol [02:34:05] [PM to Kidberg: lagged out, can you remeber that persons name?] [02:34:19] [PM from Kidberg: duc or something] [02:46:07] [PM to Kidberg: having a good laugh? ] [03:25:27] [PM to Kidberg: hope you are still laughing ...] [03:25:44] [PM from Kidberg: what?] [03:26:14] [PM from Kidberg: what r u talkin about?] [03:27:27] [PM to Kidberg: now why didn't you respond earlier?] [03:27:36] [PM from Kidberg: when?] [03:28:31] [PM to Kidberg: when i asked you if you knew this duce ?] [03:28:41] [PM from Kidberg: what are u talkin about?] [03:29:35] [PM from Kidberg: ?] [03:29:56] [PM to Kidberg: i hate to accuse anyone, but it looks like you had the whole thing planned ahead, excuse my suspiciuos mind] [03:31:04] [PM from Kidberg: what are u talkin about?] [03:31:22] [PM from Kidberg: i actually hate duece] <-- now he knows his exact name, lol [03:31:34] [PM from Kidberg: 4 what he done] [03:31:52] [PM from Kidberg: y u accusing me] [03:33:00] [PM to Kidberg: i'm not ... yet, i just think it's very suspecious, wouldn't you?] [03:33:46] [PM from Kidberg: no, seriously i hate what he done ot u and if there is anything i can do to help u earn money to get ur stuff back i will be glad to do it] [03:34:01] [PM from Kidberg: i promise i had nothing to with that] [03:35:21] [PM to Kidberg: the things are not an issue, i took the risk, and i pay the price, it's knowing about ppl which matters .... now i know him, and wondering about you..] [03:35:50] [PM from Kidberg: y dude i promise i didnt have anything to do with it all i wanted to do is pvp] [03:35:54] [PM to Kidberg: iron is a good guild, and you should be ok, but again .. do excuse me for doubting] [03:36:13] [PM from Kidberg: man i promise i wouldnt do anything like that] [03:36:53] [PM to Kidberg: if you are honest, time will tell, and you will have my complete apology] [03:37:11] [PM from Kidberg: alright ] [03:37:19] [PM from Kidberg: but i dont know y ur accusing me] [03:37:44] [PM to Kidberg: think for a second how i see this and you would.] [03:38:11] [PM from Kidberg: yeah i guess i see but i didnt set this up] [03:38:23] [PM from Kidberg: i guess iwould be supsicious too] [03:39:04] [PM to Kidberg: as i said, only time will tell .. and IRON is honorable afaik] [03:39:22] [PM from Kidberg: alright time will tell] [03:52:22] [PM to DuECe: hope you enjoy my droppings lol , you are going to pay dearly for them ] [03:52:37] [PM from DuECe: Who the hell are u?] [03:54:13] [PM from DuECe: Dont pm me and threaten me then ignore me Pussy'] [03:54:25] Resync with the server... [03:55:20] [PM from DuECe: and by the way PK is PK u were in PK map so u got PKd NO CRYING ALLOWED] [03:56:11] [PM to DuECe: lol all the crying will be your share ] [03:56:22] [PM from DuECe: Oh yea? by who wussy?] [03:57:38] [PM from DuECe: dude StFu im sik of hearing u] [03:58:31] [PM to DuECe: and i have all the time in the world for the likes of you cya soon] [03:58:42] DuECe was added to your ignore list! lastly , italics are used for correcting typos or missed words, just for the sake of readability. i belive now that there is no dispute that these 2 Kidberg and DuECe are a team. lets see what form of Honor IRON has.

ArionBattleBorn 35/36/15/17 atm. might be more by then as i'm training now. Friday

i have only witnessed one invasion before this one, last time the lag was so bad my screen was either still or black most of the tyime (resync) , and died without even knowing what got me lol. this time, i got me a couple of ferrens, lots of leopards and pumas, lol even a deer and a rabbit and died knowing what did it to me, i call that an improvemnt! instructions were a little slow and few though, but i managed to get to both MM and FoTF and WSC, and hardly any lag at all, and monsters where not condenced over over like last time, i definatly enjoyed this one, i have a feeling the lack of messages was the reson the gure was not present? maybe i'm wrong but it sure felt that way , and in a way i think that you should know Daria well enough before participating in an invasion, my opinion might be because the beasts were evenly distributed they were dispached quickly, hence the invasion was short? don't know either seems logical though .. oh one last thing , i think a Gaint is worth announcing lol the guy is big enough 7.5/10 thank you very much for this one

I Volunteer tentativly for an Arabic Translation, if needed tentative because it won't be so easy and would take time , non-latin chars and all, i'm not sure if SDL can handle Arabic? might get EGLUG or Linux-Egypt interested too..