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  1. Hello, time for some spring storage clearing :P


    Thermal Serp - 400kgc


    Dragon blade - 79k


    Halberds - 41k


    Spears - 31k


    Radioactive titanium long - 25k


    jagged sabres - 27k

    orc slayers - 27k

    cutlass - 27k

    rapiers - 27k

    eagle wings - 27k

    sunbreakers - 27k

    emerald claymore - 27k


    900 S2E swords - 960 ea (or 950 ea if buying 500+)


    100 titanium short swords - 30k bulk


    Serp swords - 14k


    Ice dragon set (plate+cuisses+greaves) - 390k

    Black dragon sets (plate+cuisses+greaves) - 290k


    Steel greaves / cuisses - 25k ea


    Steel sets - 112k


    Titanium Sets - 160k


    Titanium shields - 29k



    pm/gossip me ingame (Sheitan) or post here.

  2. *I think the Rare's that Manuers get are quite fine. Also, you can use other skills for teh gcs. Just because you're a manuer doesn't mean you can't pursue riches in other ways.*


    Isnt that what u said before not as joke? :)


    And its true, rares are fine, and i can use (well, have to sometimes) other skills for gc :) I cant afford spending 90% of my time with my main skill.

  3. Try watching how many non-manufacturers are buying steel bars in huge amounts. There are plenty of "professional hydro miners" that are providing hydro bars to EL, mostly to high-level fighters, and making nice profit with it (well, less profit now as steel bars price jumped again, 52-53 now), and thats were most of still bars go.

    Happened to me to sell some hydro bars too, but 90% of hydro i've mined i used myself (yes, thats some work from me to reduce costs ;P) And increased hydro bars price is 100% not manufacturers fault.

  4. EFEs arent used for swords btw :(


    Dragon armors and 10 binds per dragon set is what made binds harder to get, and more expensive. Bigger demand, bigger price, nothing strange here. I wish, but i dont expect ings prices to drop significantly, so only thing i can do for myself, is either stop producing swords at all, or just selll them at higher price.


    Even if wolfram bars amount coming into game is constant, they have more uses now than they used to, and that makes them more expensive. Same with serp stones, same with EFEs (alembics/vial molds), same with hydro bars (nexus), EMEs (dragon armors/saving stones). If more ppl need them, and are trying to buy them its natural price will go up.

  5. Nothing to do with luck here. I dont have to make swords/armors. And IMHO fighters will need luck if ings (and swords) price will reach NPC price :P

    As i said before, my main exp source are s2es, mixed both for myself and for other ppl, just for ings. In this case it works great all the time.

    And im not that lazy, i wish i could spend even 50% of my time with manufacturing. But if id be doing that, id be broke in less than month. 104 alch isnt bad for someone who isnt an alcher, and is lazy, no?

    (it probably came from those hundred of thousands of hydro bars i mixed to make those thousands of armors sets to flood the market)


    PS. yep, thread is getting funnier all the time. At least for me.

  6. Irony - u know that term? :P


    Im not asking u to pay more :) Just dont be lazy, harv your own ings, and bring them to manufacturer to mix. I (and many others) will do it for free. You will earn free sword, ill earn exp, its only little bit of work. Simple as that, isnt it? Ill be more than pleased if ppl will do so (can u see? im getting no profit at all here)

  7. So u dont expect great profit from training/fighting (which u spend 90% time on).


    I dont expect any profit. I just dont expect 30% loss. I mentioned those prices are still cheaper than ings. But i also mentioned that loss CAN be covered with rare chance, what u seem didnt notice. If ill be VERY lucky (sometimes i am, sometimes im not at all), ill get some bigger gc frome specials, but only if they will happen more often than only to cover loss.


    I also mentioned im buying wolfram bars from fighters. Forgot to add that i buy lots of steel bars from harvers/alchers, that are making them from scratch. I pay for those about 20-25% more than i did 1 year ago. Do u think they are willing to pay more for armors/swords? Same answer - 90% of them dont. They harv ings themselves, so their cost of making didnt increase, their income did.

  8. Conavar: little work, right? Did u ever collect ings for titanium set for example? Instead of whining at higher prices make your own armor, so all drops u get will be clear profit, and u wont have any costs. Cause i can see time isnt a cost for you. How about little work and collecting own ings for your new titanium set, ill mix it for free with pleasure, and u will save 150kgc. Doesnt matter that u will spend week or more mining ings, time is free.



    IM NOT forcing u to buy at my prices. NOT forcing anyone to do that. IM NOT asking for any forced "improvements". I just stated, like Holar did, that i WONT be selling items anymore at so big loss. So hard to understand for some of you?


    PS. yeah, 104 alch just proves my lazines... What are your levels or harv/alch or so?

  9. With your logic... why dont some fighters get ings, or even make their own armors instead of crying about higher prices? If manufacturers should be miners and alchers too, why dont other professions should? (im 104 alch level if that matters for u) Ive chosen blacksmith prof to make armors/weapons, not to spend life in undergrounds. Just like u've chosen fighter prof, not to make your own rings/essies/gear. Am i wrong?


    Btw i buy most of my EFEs/wolfram bars FROM fighters, and im paying them more then i used to few months or year ago. Do u think they are willing to pay more for the swords that are made from those ings? Answer is - 90% of them dont.

  10. Noone forbids to sell cheaper, even if someone wants to do this, its simply impossible. Just more ppl stated they agree/join Holar


    and like Machevort said: "Dunnow about other ppl, but for me its fairly simple: I aint gonna pay ingredient price for any armor or weapon that has a chance on a special worth 300K-1M gc." - he's not the only one thinking like that.


    PS. im not even asking for solution, market is market. I just stated im joining Holar with not selling manu items at so low prices.

  11. I dont expect anyone to sell FEs/ores/whatever cheaper, just because they MAY HAVE LUCK to get something rare from it. Would be funny to even ask for it. Seems its not funny only in manufacturers case, cause they are ebul rich, and rip off other ppl.



    Gilrain: ive never made Sunbreaker of Destruction, Emerald Claymore of Life & Mana, Titanium helm of Life, Steel helm of mana and iirc Titanium plate of Freezing. And had 1 JSOC in about 1k jaggeds. want me to calculate prices for those items? sure:

    sunbreaker/claymore/jagged: 2x wolfram bar - 10,5-11k each, 1 binding stone - 7,5-8k , and some minor stuff worth about 100-500gc. total 28,5-30,5kgc

    titanium plate: 5 hydrobars- 10,5k ea, 4 efes -7,5-8k ea, 30 titanium bars 38-45 ea. Total 83,5-86-5k


    FYI titanium plate price was 72-75k MAX. Got about 300-350 made.



    one more thing: noone takes fails/saving stones into consideration? or i just didnt notice.