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agreed, ive done it in less than a week So, you've harvested the: 57,000 Red Snapdragons 57,000 Red Roses 57,000 Sulfur 86,400 Coal 142,000 Iron Ore Necessary to make the: 57,000 Fire Essence 2,000 Iron Bars 16,000 Steel Bars Necessary to make the: 1,000 Steel Two Edge Swords Necessary to harvest the: 1,000 Hydrogenium Ore That is finally needed to make: 100 Hydrogenium Bars And you did all this in a week? Harvest time with excavator perk: Snaps: approx 240/min (~3.95 hours) Roses: approx 120/min (~7.9 hrs) Sulfur: approx 60/min (~15.8 hrs) Coal: approx 60/min (~24 hrs) Iron: approx 60/min (~39.4 hrs) Total harvest time: ~91 hrs This is not taking into account mixing time, or acquiring the proper necessary food to mix all of the above. Or the time necessary to haul all 1000 s2e's to the hydro at ~30 per trip (30+ trips). In short, for two people to accomplish this in a week, it's more than a full time job (40 hours/week) for most people. Or do you mean that you purchased some of the necessary items in their already made or harvested form. edit: It should also be noted that the above does not include room for any failures. Each failure would mean more time. i deeply thank you for youre figures , i did 500 hydro bars all alone from scratch i feel youre pain , i didnt keep such impeckable records though You cannot buy hydro or hydro bars from the shop so they have to be made. Entropy will have to believe that getting a NMT is just as hard as making 50 hydro bars in order to make that change. I am not sure about how that is viewed by Entropy or anyone else because the drop rates have changed. I do know that making 50 hydro bars takes a very large amount of work. That would be Entropy's decision of course. That would be a way to get them out of the game. If Entropy left them at current drop rates and you add this idea to them being branched then maybe it would level out there numbers in game. The price would go up dramatically but I don't hear anyone complaining about it costing too much. lol As new players enter the game and buying free pick points becomes more common this might work except that no one can afford it. I would suggest that this idea combine with multiplay to add more gold coin to the economy would make a possibly workable idea. I don't think this idea alone will work because the price of NMT will go past the cost of the hydro bars rapidly if they get used for this and then no one will do it. TirunCollimdus CoGM of PATH Perseverance And Tolerance Honored im sorry TC but this idea will deal a crushing blow to the economy .....it takes a team of people working hard to make hydro bars....which keeps people busy ...would you trade that for ONE persons drop nmt cloak?????the heafty use of hydro bars fuels our economy (it benifits /harvestors /manuers/ alch..ect...) i dont think ent will EVER do that *note* i know this wasent youre idea tc i just happend to click add reply here
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agreed, ive done it in less than a week ya well i harvested the iron ore/all fe ingredients(and made the fire ess)/coal/lots of toad stool. then i made shit loads of steel bars/iron bars then i turned them all into s2e then i harvested all the hydo ore then i made the bars and it is a very long process not as easy as just getting a monster drop but w/e u guys think you know better
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im sorry sir but i think you are mistaken.......you have no clue wat a pain in the ass it is to get 50 hydro bars (not to buy, but to make) very long hard process and the find rate on a nexus remover is probablyhigher then a nmt
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Think that if the creators didn't care about players opinion this thread would't exist. And 70% wants the cape to remain unbreakable. 70% lol 38/62 is closer to 60% it is very close to a 60/40 vote
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i dont WANT anyone to do anything they dont want to...... i had a 138/141 a.d 85mag/77manu/90alch/82harvest 144oa/and i did just fine spending time harvesting and alching and manu to make some money to afford train, i used to harvest my own ore and flowers and alch my own he and ae then i would sell some to buy sr (i sold my account btw) but i dont fight/train or even own a nmt cloak anymore, i simply realise that their cannot be an unbreakable item of this magnitude ask any game creator/mod/dev they will tell you same....i know that somewhere in the back of entropys mind this is something that bothers him, it WILL be fixed sooner or later, better off sooner so that people can adapt their chars now... Impressive curriculum vitae, but what is your point? I am concerned about the use of high end items in combat. Everyone who can kill a certain monster in full steel and COL can kill a weaker monster in full leather, and barely lose any items doing so. It is a trade-off between expensive fast xp or cheap slow xp. Why do you think it is good to make expensive fast xp more expensive? In the end, time being money (in EL doubly so), expensive XP == slow XP due to the need for harvest to pay for it. I expect people to stop using their nice gear in training just like people don't like NMT in pk because of brod (i suppose that was the point in another thread). my point...he asked me how much time i wanted a fighter to spend harevsting, i anwsered with what i did if i didnt want people to level so fast i would be against stackable SR, yes they used to NOT be stackable. see how much exp u get per hour when u have to refill every 15 minutes..you miss the point im not trying to f**k up exp i feel that only selfish people think that
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ok so why does the GAME creator himself feel this is the best thing to do? u only care cause you worry about yourself and youre Nmt ...my opinion is UN BIAS yours isnt it is a FACT that in a MMORPG their shouldnt be ANY indestructable item
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i dont WANT anyone to do anything they dont want to...... i had a 138/141 a.d 85mag/77manu/90alch/82harvest 144oa/and i did just fine spending time harvesting and alching and manu to make some money to afford train, i used to harvest my own ore and flowers and alch my own he and ae then i would sell some to buy sr (i sold my account btw) but i dont fight/train or even own a nmt cloak anymore, i simply realise that their cannot be an unbreakable item of this magnitude ask any game creator/mod/dev they will tell you same....i know that somewhere in the back of entropys mind this is something that bothers him, it WILL be fixed sooner or later, better off sooner so that people can adapt their chars now... Correction, you simply have your mind set that way and wont change it. There's way around having an unbreakable item... same could be said about you,no?
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i dont WANT anyone to do anything they dont want to...... i had a 138/141 a.d 85mag/77manu/90alch/82harvest 144oa/and i did just fine spending time harvesting and alching and manu to make some money to afford train, i used to harvest my own ore and flowers and alch my own he and ae then i would sell some to buy sr (i sold my account btw) but i dont fight/train or even own a nmt cloak anymore, i simply realise that their cannot be an unbreakable item of this magnitude ask any game creator/mod/dev they will tell you same....i know that somewhere in the back of entropys mind this is something that bothers him, it WILL be fixed sooner or later, better off sooner so that people can adapt their chars now...
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here just for a few people to see...and i was wrong not 10 but 20
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yes he does, you just dont know about it...
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Not many temp, ent had a log of EVERY Nmt that ever left the game it wasent more then 10 since they were implemented
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Tc said that " the Nmt MUST be made breakable and if you dont htink so you should stop reading this thread" so how the (insert bad words) do you agree with him totaly and then vote NO????????????????????? re-read his post tc post is #286 and yours is #287
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IMO a lot of the issue seem to be that people want to keep the item rare and not let every tom,dick or harry have one. but decisions should be made for overall game balance and not just gold price of an item (1) cant make it level dependant thats not fair (2)the issue isnt neccassarly who has it, BUT THAT THEIR isnt an exit for this item (3) thats why the dev/mods/game creator wantto make it breakable for game Ballance
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ya im 27 lucifer is 27 and many others are older gentlemen such as ourselves we all have fulll time jobs and such this game is very diversified .......so these opinions arent comming from hopped up 15 year old with bad wishes to you, this is comming from experienced and mature EL players (both sides of the arguement) Mate why do you think that everything i am saying has to do with you? I respect your arguments but allow me to say what i think its best for me or for rest of the players.. I never said that everything i am saying is right. If i knew everything i would be ENT-ROJA-Learner We are different personalities so u can have fun with different things. Things that i may think that they are boring for me. it seems it is you who thinks im on the defense or offense with you, i was simply letting you know that as a 30 year old in thhis game youre not alone ...thats all
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ya youre vote was sufficant, thank you do you have any reason or explaination yould like to share? mabye as to what brought you to this decision? mabye it will help other share youre view Sorry i didnt know u r the owner of the poll and u judge whats suficient or not And i think we all wanna know your opnion about the cavern walls on ppl heads lol ok i think that when a harvestor has cavern wall fall on his head he should DIE unless he wears armour anyways thank you for youre sarcahism you very inteligent you mother must be proud I dont need my mother opnion about what i think, if u need go ask her what to answer well you seem to have a lot to say about everything else EXCEPT the topic
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ya youre vote was sufficant, thank you do you have any reason or explaination yould like to share? mabye as to what brought you to this decision? mabye it will help other share youre view Sorry i didnt know u r the owner of the poll and u judge whats suficient or not And i think we all wanna know your opnion about the cavern walls on ppl heads lol ok i think that when a harvestor has cavern wall fall on his head he should DIE unless he wears armour anyways thank you for youre sarcahism you very inteligent you mother must be proud i just asked you to prove a point which is that you vote NO but you have NO reason just a closed mind
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ya youre vote was sufficant, thank you do you have any reason or explaination yould like to share? mabye as to what brought you to this decision? mabye it will help other share youre view
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IM COOL, i just got that idea in my head and wanted to express it thats all much understanding comes with delivery my friend (meaning, its not what you say, but how you say it)
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Because ppl who leave give their stuff or account away, its not that so many NMT cloak owners just go away and a cape would actually leave the game. So, if it stays unbreakable, in a few month/years or whatever, the NMT cape is worthless, because there are thousands in game, since fluffy still drops them, but none of them gets destroyed. So, its only a matter of time, when the amount of NMT capes in game is bigger than the amount of flowers. And then guess, for how much you can sell them. At least not for 400k gc. Piper well to be painfully honest i think this is the situation the game creator/mods/developers and experienced players actually give a shit about this games future as a whole while the players (not all of them) only give a shit about their future , want what they want and dont care if it will hurt the game to get their..... all i hear from the people who want the cape to not break is how it will affect THEM... But the people who vote break it all tell how it is better for the GAME
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well as Entropy said leveling a/d wasent meant to be made cheap, easy or even profitable... and their is a problem with an item being unbreakable, i believe entropy posted some stats on just how many Nmt have left the game since the cape was implemented , and it was like mabye 10 total in a year or more...that was part of the reason i feel strongly that they should be made breakable... and if you ask and dev/mod/game creator or experienced player they will usually all give you the same anwser "No item she be unbreakable"
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If I wanted quests would I have played WoW. Tryed it 2 weeks, left it because of the quests. Maybe you should try ?? ys i have to agree with zamirah El has a uniqueness about it , i like the freedom and i find quests a pain in my ass, mabye try the role playing channel , or events channel
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ya im 27 lucifer is 27 and many others are older gentlemen such as ourselves we all have fulll time jobs and such this game is very diversified .......so these opinions arent comming from hopped up 15 year old with bad wishes to you, this is comming from experienced and mature EL players (both sides of the arguement)
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you must be joking High levels train like crazy thats why they are high level, the only reason low levels catch up fast is because it is say 1mill for the low level to make a/d/oa and 15-20mill for higher level Aha my point was i didnt think that the top 20 players trained above there level.. if thats the case then i was mistaken ( and they just as much to blame as noobs j/k ) ohhh lol i read the first line that said train ABOUT their levels, i didnt realise that it was a typo for ABOVE