Thordin

OMG, you cannot remember what ranks you have at your Gods? What worshippers are you? Keeping 3 numbers in memory isn't THAT hard...

Ok, let me put it this way: do you think, it's fair to have ultimate armor (iron full plate) and decent weapon (serpent sword) in two weeks of gameplay? I agree with you, that this may frustrate some people as they will be unable to wear certain things, but IMO they will train harder to get those things worn. And as for strong people, I don't know which level of A/D you consider strong, but this may give focus to some to reach better gear. However, as always, you word is final and we will adjust to your decision.. EDIT: damn, Aislinn was few seconds faster than me

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but they did not broke any rules to be banned, yet they behaved badly. The most you can do is disqualify them from the contest, nothing more.

OMG, did you count them? How many of them are there? Pity, it's bit dark, but this is the most fluffy furry screenshot I have ever seen My pic of deer's head in DP docks

Something like floating messages could be good, perhaps instead of ascending text, this can be rolling in the level on knees or descending from the level of chest down, fading in the ground...

Ok, you asked for it. "Make it starts lower and end higher" thing is here: ARMOR(defense required) Leather helm (0) Leather torso (0) Leather pants (0) Leather boots (0) Wooden shield (0) Enhanced wooden shield (5) Iron chainmail (10) Iron shield (15) Iron helm (20) Steel chainmail (25) Iron greaves (30) Steel shield (35) Titanium chainmail (40) Iron cuisses (45) Iron platemail (50) Steel helm (55) Steel greaves (60) Steel cuisses (65) Steel platemail (70) TItanium helm (75) Titanium greaves (80) Titanium shield (85) Titanium cuisses (90) TItanium platemail (100) WEAPONS (attack required) Iron sword (0) Wooden staff (5) Iron broad sword (10) Wooden hammer (15) Steel long sword (20) Quarterstaff (25) Steel two-edged sword (30) Iron battlehammer (35) Iron axe (40) Titanium short sword (45) Steel axe (50) Titanium long sword (55) Titanium axe (60) Titanium serpent sword (65) New swords, yet to come (70-100 according to their attributes) So you can see, that lists starts at 0 and ends at 100, in addition, I cannot decide about axe of freezing (A 90?), Branch oD (A 95?), Bone oD (A 100?), CoL (D 50?), CoM (M 40?), Staff oM (M 50?), Staff oP (M 60?). Can you help me here? I am only familiar with CoL and CoM, other items I have not yet used, so I dare not to suggest anything specific. As for the magic abilities of weapons: Fire is +10% to requisites, Ice is +15%, Magic is +25% and Thermal is +40% (which gives thermal serpent a requirement A 90+, sounds fair?) I would also like to hear, if this debate is about something, or it's just pointless, as I am getting little nervous about this...

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There has to be something though for the top 20 players. Eventually there will be more up there, and those that are top 20 now will need something even beyond their current levels for them to shoot for. Remember, we want to keep these people in the game too. Magic armors for them, they are really missed. Some armor with fire/ice/magic extra protection would come handy here. Or with some other, yet unseen, abilities could be great, but I believe they are under developement while we talk here. It's difficult to keep balance between what is good for motivation and what is good for economy IMHO... P.S.: omg, 82nd reply, this is getting huge

Suggested levels are low, because I feared to be flamed to death if they were too exaggerated Sure thing Scarr, make your suggestion, they are most welcome... But I see fit defense for iron full plate on level 40 of defense, since it won't be ultimate armor in the game, if the level was too high, then the following armors must be of course higher, meant only for top 20 players, which wouldn't keep the market of them. Do not get overzealous on this, this is meant to be fun, not torture to get iron chainmail at level 30 of defense! Keep the head cool and think rationaly, too high levels will cripple the whole system. I understand you are high level and experienced players, but you are not the majority, think on the middle class of players. As I told above, iron plate mail and titanium serpent will no longer be ultimate armor, so those levels seem quite fine to me. And as for magical weapons, there should definitely be high levels, which I posted also on page 2. Fire +5, ice +6, magic +7 and thermal +10 levels. CoL is fine at level 50 IMHO, but do not forget that CoM is used also by summoners and they don!t have to have high level of magic, which would make the most difficult skill even impossible to perform effectively. About the staves, they're okay with magic level. For nebs with A/D 3/3 is ready leather gear with wooden shield and iron sword at no requirements, hence it is reward for tutorial quest. As for those new sword, it's quite hard to set them right. I just want to make some motivation and sense to A/D leveling, not getting too hard to get equipment, as I said before, don't get overzealous and keep your head cool. -Thordix

1000 vials for 1000 emeralds just for you Helga, because you are wonderful singer I'll be online on monday (hope so) I'm Thordix from CZE (a.k.a. your allies )

Well first I don't like the idea of embryonic guild with no tag, no info and so, seems very hard to me, in addition what would you do with existing guilds? Maintain them? Now, that would be unfair, indeed. But I like the idea of making an oath, so there would be less one-man guild, let's say 5 people to give birth to a guild must be present, could be nice events around fireplaces...

Don't say that too loudly... I mean, some idjit actually suggested 'Scotty's Vacation'... *whistles* although a no-beam perk would be interesting... There is a tiny silver thing with green stone in it, it's called Isla Prima ring, heard of it? Of course you have. So this perk won't be such pointless, gives another work for crafters (like me ).

Strange, I was chatting with him sitting in KF, we asked each other our stats, both armed, he asked me if I want to train, I said no, that I was hunting ants. But I chatted with him in czech-polish language, he seems ok, but his english is really horrible, so maybe it could be just a misunderstanding...

OMG, quoting my own post, but everyone is so lazy to look at it. This is how I think the levels should be...

EVIL But be assured, this is going to be VERY expensive and VERY rare

No. 6 phys would give more than the 2 more damage igid provides, and 6 coord would help more than evanescense. Ever wondered why people pk'ers don't have those perks? This is why i think perks should be on a seperate system to pickpoints, get a "perk point" every 5 levels and get any perk with it (maybe open better perks with more oa), if you take a neg you can pick an extra perk. Then have lot's of perks so you can get variety in characters other than just bigger numbers. Good idea, something like Fallout system. But we would need more perks maybe... For example: Firefly would give additional protection against fire, Ice Imbued against ice, Magic Maniac would amplify spells, Stone Skin would reduce damage taken, Fast feet would give movement advantage, Bloodbath would increase damage dealt, Caveman's Cover would decrease negative events during harvest... Hehe, I like to play with words <edit> typos </edit>

ROFL I want yellow circles too, maybe as a beacons

*You have just created Emerald Claymore of Life Drain* OMG, real magic weapons at last! Not just those glowy crap with extra damage Excellent idea!

We are getting little off-topic here. The debate is about whether A/D requirement for weapons/armor are desired, or whether human nexus is just fine. (BTW: when its solar day, I put my FR cape on and all is solved, when it's cold, just add some fur/leather outfit and that's it)

Never seen anyone on PL titanium or WSC diamonds to wear a full plate while harvesting...

If you could wear full plate and serp with 5/5 a/d, even with horrible negs, most of rich newbies would still do it. There should be some kind of minimum, for example you cannot wear it if you have less than 50% of recommend level. But if they do so, they'll have negative armor and defense than naked, according to reality, if you are not strong to wear full plate, you can still put it on, but you won't be able to move fast or fight. Another idea: How about A/D recommended levels combined with P/C requirements, even low (P 16 for plate mail e.g.)? <edit> ONE WISH FOR FORUM MOD: is it possible to rename the P/C in the title of the thread to A/D? People are confused about it, it was original idea, but now we are talking mostly about A/D and P/C was mainly refused. </edit>

Just today, during brave day, he tried to lure on of my guildmates to "train in PK", he told him to wear full plate, pretty low trick, if you ask me. He's untrustworthy.

As I posted before, I have no good ideas about capes/crowns/BoD and so on... make any suggestion... Or maybe those level I suggested would be recommended with some negative effect based on percentace, for example higher rate of breakage for swords, you don't handle well, less protection and more food consumed for heavy armor you can barely wear and so on. Then anyone can have those items for screenies, but they will be ineffective in combat, what do you think?

It will be, just read the table on page 2. We agreed that yet A/D requirements is most illogical, it's most fair.

Good bye good ol' serpent sword, your days are now over... Looking forward to make some of them