Link

Selling: 35679 Leopard fur 12042 Black panther fur 7828 Tiger fur Pm Link ingame with offers or leave a reply here.

Sent Iluna's August 2010 renewal fee today by mail.

Iluna's owner is now me, Link. (Same person, namechange) Thanks

I went on the test server, in Tahraji Desert, killed some stuff with the axe: To Taharaji Desert Warning! You just entered a PKing map! This means other players can attack you! Cyclops got paralyzed for 3 turns! Fluffy Rabbit got paralyzed for 3 turns! It works, on the test server at least

This is a known bug, which will be fixed with the next client update. Source: http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.p...st&p=509502

http://www.gm.fh-koeln.de/~linke/EL-Services.html

I'll take the axe of freezing, pm me ingame (same name)

Could I get a forum name change to Link, to match my ingame name? Thanks

Sent Iluna's August 2009 renewal fee today by check/mail.

[21:30:12] [radu @ 6]: I might be willing to implement such an idea [21:30:22] [radu @ 6]: but with the exclusive condition that you put your money where your mouth is [21:30:48] [ryddler @ 6]: you mean donate up front like before? [21:30:54] [radu @ 6]: yes [21:31:35] [Tradon @ 6]: npc middle man that holds the GC |\ [21:32:09] [radu @ 6]: no, I'd delegate a player to hold the gc [21:32:11] [radu @ 6]: like gnny [21:32:28] [radu @ 6]: but first post it on the forums, see if there is enough demand [21:29:21] [radu @ 6]: I would not put any gear restrictions if I ever do it

Works okay, ~60 FPS Video card: GeForce FX 5500/AGP/SSE2 Vendor ID: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Version: 2.1.2

150k

Those came with Xfire's newest update. Do "Scroll Lock + E" on the EL window while Xfire is on, and then uncheck "Display Time Overlay" and "Display FPS Overlay" in the lower left hand box, and hit Escape or whatever else to get out of that window.

Another issue that I've seen quite a bit recently: Player A posts an auction, with starting price Players B,C, and D bid well below the starting price. If a starting price is given, chances are the item won't be sold below that, so aren't those bids basically spam? They could also be seen as hijacking since the auction starter generally has no desire for lower bids. For reference: http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=49087

I'm not sure where exactly people got the concept that some bots are pming every passing player who walks by. I know of no such bot, most bots have a select few (or noone) who it greets, normally friends or guildmates of the owner. The main spam issues are bots which are close to heavily traversed areas and near which players have a reason to congregate within earshot, so if people on it's list walk back and forth along that path, the people within earshot get spam. Related to this are bots which are near harvestables and which comment on each/some harvest events. IMO, bots which do neither of these actions aren't a problem, and ones which do need to adjust their lists or settings.. assuming that Entropy were to make some kind of set-in-stone rule on this.

So, in your opinion, anyone who sells or buys for say.. what, outside of 10%, of the normal price, should be banned? Okay, let's just throw the free market economy out of the window, we can all sell for fixed prices to NPCs, right? Check out rule 10. It is your choice whether or not to trade with a bot, don't worry about it's prices, simply don't trade with it if you don't like it. I could go into economics 101, but sufficive to say, due to supply curves being very low at that price, that bot will not be able to purchase many of those items. Free market economies are self regulating(to a large degree), so they do not need people to arbitrarily decide which traders are "scamming". Oh, and already suggested, please search before posting. http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47900 Where those supposed to be buying or selling prices? Either way, it sounds like that bot has either been hacked or they entered in a ludicrous buying price to meet some special bot rule. I think there might be a rule where the bot has to be willing to buy/sell from everyone that is not black-listed. Not sure though. No, the bot has not been hacked. BTW, since most bots which do not buy those items essentially buy them at 0 gc, Karlin has a better deal on those items. She offers at least something. We'd better ban all the bots which do not buy them at all, those profit making machines. There is no rule about which segment of the population a bot may buy or sell items to or from. However, since for many bots, the black list is defined as the list of players whom the bot is not willing to buy or sell from, such a rule would be quite redundant.

26k with the raw meat or 14k without Also, I will contact you ingame about this, please reserve it for me.

3k for the remaining animal items

Got #2, Roanof Island: [282,351]

Got it, [153,42] DP library

Integral, adj, 1. being an essential part of a whole 2. whole or complete Without bots, i feel EL would be incomplete. Not necessary, but incomplete without the valuable(IMO) convenience. I have to say I'm astonished with this post. I have to agree with some people commenting bolded parts (bolding added by me). Why to bother with playing an MMORPG if interacting with other, 'alive' players is 'time consuming' and decreasing your ability to enjoy the game? Wouldn't games like Daggerfall, Morrowind or Oblivion (games with fairly open world and storyline) be a better choice? Please read all my replies before you say something someone else already said which I refuted. Pming someone a couple of times and clicking on their avatar is not "interacting" by my definition. If you consider this the high point of interaction, I feel you lead a very boring IG life, or are a member of a very small guild. If I want to interact with someone, I'll pm them or do some mixing event, etc, with them. Clicking their avatar and accept does not constitute interaction to me. Noone ever said that nordcarn bots(the ones massed by storage) are strategic. You seem to think I or others were arguing that ALL bots are strategic. I never said this and this is not the case. However, my bot, and others, are strategically placed. Please tell me who would buy/sell silver ore to agneum miles away from any silver mine. And FYI, IIRC, DP was one of a couple(another being WS) market zones implemented by entropy under something similar to this. So I would guess he prefers this type of organization of bots.

Obviously, neither of you understood a word I said. I can either join a channel, advertise for who knows how long, assuming that someone is selling it at all, pm them, arrange a meeting place, get there, wait for the other person, possibly not have them show up, and eventually get the item. Or, I can go to a bot who will always be online, in a certain spot, and depending on the bot/item will always have it in stock. Now some examples here are exaggerated, but my point is that bots are a convenience, not only because of reliability and accountability, but because they are more than willing to deal in small quantities, where as players.... lol. Try selling 5 beaver furs on channel 3, see how many responses you get. And FYI, I didn't say I didn't trade with other players. There are times for trading with other players(example: nonstackable items), and there are times for trading with bots(example: low quantities or when noone else is selling). Also, if you get enjoyment out of "interacting" by switching a few pms and clicking on an avatar, maybe your guild is not active enough Personally, i could care less about this kind of "interacting", if you can even call it that.

I really disagree with this statement. EL did fine before bots and would do so again without them. I do fine without bots too. Personally I think bots in general, and the sheer mass amount of them these days ruins the atmosphere of EL both by eliminating the need to interact with other players for game necessities, and just seeing them every other step littering the views. And I would argue that the convenience and placement of many of the bots greatly increases my ability to enjoy the game by eliminating the need to interact with other players, which can be far more time consuming than an always-on, always-trading bot which has for sale what i would like to buy.

No, it's not at all what I wish to create. NC is a whole map, I never mentioned making an entire existing map full of bots. I realize that, but aren't most bots in NC concentrated in the small corner near the storage?

Yes I could see you don't understand my post Look at the "marketplaces" in game. Do they cover a whole map? No...just a small spot in a map. It's annoying to walk through a map and see bot after bot after bot....it ruins the atmosphere of the game. If the bots were concentrated in small areas that wouldn't. But NC is basically a concentrated marketplace, just what you wish to create, from what i can understand. However, that was a specific example you cited as disliking in your post. Anyway, I think there are enough "not-strategic bots" to make the move voluntary and still have good results. If you were to grant a free move to the new marketplaces, or other incentives, I would guess that enough non-strategic bots would move to make it worthwhile. Please don't financially kill the strategic bots. OMG.. discrimination much? Why are we lesser "citizens", just because we don't pay ridiculous amounts for hosting? We still pay the same amounts you do to the game developers for those bots. So why do we not have the same rights you do? While we're at it, we had better ban those evil people who host their own bots, because they aren't paying either! While i'm on the subject, how do you plan to segregate the non-payers? We all know of the one large non-pay service, but what about smaller ones, between friends? Shall we ask which bot owners are being selfish and not paying $400 a month to a host? I would like to see your statistics on the correlation between "this bot free for all" and the free hosting service. I have not noticed a large influx of bots. And being one of the first members of this service, I can tell you that a good amount of our users switched to us from "paid" hosts. So please supply your evidence, or stop assuming.