CelticLady

Up for auction is one Sunbreaker of Destruction. Like the original, but with a 0.5% chance to break an item. Auction will run for 48hrs from the time this was posted. Post your bids here, or if you would like to bid anonymously then forum pm me or pm me in game. I will accept gc and the following items in offers at the associated prices. I may consider other items in trade. pm me in game to find out if I will consider your offer of other items. I will not accept any other weapons or armor in trade. Acceptable bid items: Hydro bars - 10k Wolf bars - 7k Binding stones - 7k Steel bars - 40gc EFE - 3.5k Serp stones - 1k Minimum starting bid is 400k. EDIT: In response to forum pm on this item...I will NOT reveal the identity of an anonymous bidder/ winner if they request to be kept private. I respect my customers request to privacy and threatening to place me on personal pk lists will not change that.

Auction over. Won by anonymous bidder.

Anonymous bid submitted via pm 400kgc 10 binding stones 15k coal --------------- 500kgc value

From what I hear, yes. I'll have to talk with Pillgrim again and find out on the Claymore and make sure I didn't misunderstand him. yay another item for people to complain about, i like it tho. have you/do you plan on selling it? I will most likely auction it this weekend. Unless I get an offer I can't refuse before then. I vote that this sword does not get auctioned, but its your choice. I go with Anthro's idea of destroying it. -Blee I personally will not use this weapon, not even to test it. However it is highly tempting to carry it with me and deal out some payback to those few people who have used BroD on me in the past. Anyways, my suggestion is, see what you can do to come up with a better offer than others. That way it is out of the hands of those who may actually use it. Then if you want to 'destroy' it, put it in a bag and sit on it until it poofs. I will not destroy my own creation and I am greedy enough to want to sell it to the highest bidder. And remember, it isn't like another one can't be made by someone else. It only took me 2 days of mass manu to make it. I doubt all manuers with the level/knowledge to make sunbreaker will boycott making them to keep from getting a special one.

From what I hear, yes. I'll have to talk with Pillgrim again and find out on the Claymore and make sure I didn't misunderstand him. yay another item for people to complain about, i like it tho. have you/do you plan on selling it? I will most likely auction it this weekend. Unless I get an offer I can't refuse before then.

Yes, Pillgrim made an Eagle Wing of Extra Damage. He told me that there already is a special Emerald Claymore, but I can't remember what it is.

Guess I should have said what mine are I have an outline of a heart with a rose stem that sort of laces through it. The rose bud is white and there is a drop of blood dripping out of it. Represents that things are not always what they seem. Right underneath that I have one that says "Tigger" old nick name of mine. It's orange and black tiger striped with green cat eyes in the g's. They are on my right shoulderblade. The other is on my left upper arm. I have a yin yang symbol with the chinese characters for Kung Fu. That one is all black. Yes, I train a form of Kung Fu, Wun Hop Kuen Do if anyone cares How much did all that cost? =/ Sounds like they look really cool Ehh not that much really. I pierced my eybrow myself so that was free The other piercings were only like $15-20-ish for the pairs on my ears, bellybutton was like $20. That one needs to be redone, they didn't get enough flesh in there and it could tear out if it got caught on something. I don't usually have anything in it cause of that. The two tattoos on my shoulderblade were about $100 for both. The one on my arm was done by a family friend that had a studio and he charged me $125 for it. I will be putting one on my right upper arm with the chinese characters for Tiger and a tiger standing on the characters. I just have to get the money for it and find a local studio I trust to do the work. Unfortunately my skin doesn't ink well and it bleeds badly. Here is a pic of the one on my arm Click'n'Stuff

Guess I should have said what mine are I have an outline of a heart with a rose stem that sort of laces through it. The rose bud is white and there is a drop of blood dripping out of it. Represents that things are not always what they seem. Right underneath that I have one that says "Tigger" old nick name of mine. It's orange and black tiger striped with green cat eyes in the g's. They are on my right shoulderblade. The other is on my left upper arm. I have a yin yang symbol with the chinese characters for Kung Fu. That one is all black. Yes, I train a form of Kung Fu, Wun Hop Kuen Do if anyone cares

Just made Sunbreaker of Destruction Same as original but with 0.5% chance to break an item.

I technically have 3 tattoos, but it looks like only 2. One is right above another and they kinda look like they go together. Piercings??....ummm my ears are pierced 9 times, my eyebrow is pierced once and my bellybutton is pierced once

I have noticed this also. Most recently just a few days ago with two different pvp partners. Chiapet has higher a/d/c than me and Atavar has higher a/d but matching c. It happened with both of them several times each. I have tried both Home key and clicking on the ground. I notice that it happens to both of us at the same time. Both chars keep whacking away at eachother and no failed to flee message for either of us. We are both trying to flee by either Home key or clicking and it just doesn't seem to get recognized or something. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. Sometimes if I restore while I am holding the Home key then I will start to get the failed to flee message and then can finally successfully flee. I don't know if that is just a coincidence because it doesn't always work.

Thank you I put mine in Greetings since I never did a "Hi, I'm a newb" post. But this is a good idea to get a list going so we can have parties for people and such.

I tried at the following coords on the arrow pointing towards Bethel: 717,515 / 714,515 / 713,517 / 712,517 / 711,517 / 710,516 Still part of the arrow I didn't check, so if anyone wants to look there still just don't check where I did. I tried the following coords on the W of Winds in the desert: 636,381 / 637,381 / 637, 382 / 637,383 / 636, 384 / 635, 385 Again, I only checked part of it. Lastly on that map, I checked a few tiles right in front of the flag to Bethel. I checked the entire word 'Bethel' in Sedicolis where is says "To Bethel". Checked most of the word 'Sands' of "Searing Sands" as well. Also checked in the mouth and right in front of the mouth for the dragon skull thing there. And just to the side of the flag to Bethel. Have fun continuing the search. I have spent enough gc on this one

Ummm yeah, well, I didn't bother to explain a simple way of accessing it cause that isn't what this thread was about. It was about Entropy asking for people who already knew how to get there to come and help test something right then and there. I apologize if that seemed overly rude, but it seemed pretty clear in the original post that it was for people that knew how to get there. If he wanted to give a step by step then he would have.

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No, but they do ask if you can attack it, why you can't attack it, will they ever be able to attack it, do they ever show up in invasions, can they ride it, will we ever be able to ride them etc, etc, etc. If a horse were tied up outside the tavern, or permanently stood outside there then they would ask. I want a horse, can we ride horses, where can I buy a horse, why can't we ride horses, why is there a horse at the tavern if we can't ride them, will we ever be able to ride them etc, etc, etc.

is it bad if you spray adult beverage out of your nose all up into your keyboard? also .... I happen to think white is pretty, it would be fun for me to hide against the walls and pop out when people try to go in. I can just see it now: Newbie: hey! what's this big white building?? Sin jumps out from side of building "hiyas!" Newbie: omg!!! Newbie logs out and needs to change their shorts Ummm no, cause then we would have alot of "hey, I want a horse" [Newbie @ 3]: where can I buy a horse? [Newbie @ 3]: hey!!! where is the guy that sells horses? i can't find the dude to buy a horse [CelticLady @ 3]: you can't buy horses [Newbie @ 3]: I want to buy a horse, looking to buy a horse [CelticLady @ 3]: Stop spamming. I already told you that you can't buy a horse [Newbie @ 3]: Spam? we can get spam here? I want to buy some spam. I think my char is hungry. Buying spam or scenario 2 All the irl rich people buy horses that we can't buy in game and they set up their ebul horse army on the way to the hydro ore. Along comes unsuspecting me. CelticLady: what the? CelticLady is now pushing up the daisies You have died and gone to the underworld [CelticLady @ 4]: Who got the bright idea to sell pk horses? Especially ones that I can't manu so in no way benefits me? The above mentioned is assuming this was an exercise in proving that A: You can't please everyone all of the time. B: Some (alot?) of us will complain about anything. C: We like to make assumptions that are not necessarily correct. Of course, if you were in any way serious about either... err..uhh...I don't really know if either one would help.

Best alternative idea on this, in my opinion. This would just be a temporary boost, much like a/d/p/c, craft, manu etc pots that are already in game. What would be interesting is if there were one potion per nexus and in order to make that potion you would need, not only a high pot level/nexus, but also a high nexus in the pot you are attempting to make. ie. Pot lvl x & Vegetal Nex 6(?) + Artificial Nex 6(?) = Artificial Nexus Pot Dunno, just popped into my head after reading LadyReni's comment.

Well, I think obviously someone with 400 EMU won't be bothering to gather 50 hydro bars... They could gain an OA level in much less time. As Ent said, one reason for this feature is *because* getting PPs is such a pain for high level players: Even if it only takes you 50 hours to make a hydro bar, that is still a lot of work, AND once you buy nexuses, you can't ever reset your char without throwing them away. Fourier: yea you do lose the nexus if you reset. This feature Does have some advantage for a high lvl char, because you can invest nexuses in skills you wouldn't have wasted PPs on. For example, a pure PKer could now do manuing as well. Of course, if all you want is to transfer purchased nexuses to attributes, then yes, you do have to reset... That's why I think, why not just have an option to pay 50 hydro bars to reclaim PPs from nexuses? That way it's fair for everyone. Replying to the statement in bold above: Oh? My carry cap is 500. My OA level will be 100 in about 500k xp. I am almost constantly trying to produce hydro bars because I am a manufacturer(all-arounder). So yes, people with a lower carry cap do try to get hydro bars. And yes, it takes a long time. If my carry cap were higher it would take me much less time and I would be able to work on other things. But since I am not a fighter I didn't pump up my p/c (Yes, I am aware that some people who are not fighters have a high p/c. In general it is the fighters that raise their p/c though). On the note of this being good for the economy, to an extent it would be. On the other hand when the price of hydro bars raises, will people pay more for the armor that requires those bars to produce? Or will I still hear "you are a rich manuer, I'm a poor pk'er. That is too much"? I am lucky if I can sell armor at cost, what will happen if hydro bars do goto 15-20k? Will people pay 90k+ for a steel plate torso? Sure, I could reset, but I chose my pp placement very carefully based on how I wanted to play the game. I would like to pk. I never will be able to. Even if I took neg perks, I am still down the 31 pp I have in nexus(yes, some would carry over like Human and such). Why should a fighter or anyone who chose to add alot of pp into p/c be able to then work on another skill by buying the nexus? They can still be a pk'er 'and' work on another skill. Where as someone like me can't unless I reset. You have got to be kidding about that, right? I spent 7 pp on Artificier Perk to get that. At any rate, I think this whole thing is an endless debate. Some like it, some don't. Such is life.

I voted no specifically for the above reason. I already have 31 pp in nexus so this would not help me in the slightest. I can see how this would be desirable for a high oa lvl fighter, but for me as a semi-high lvl all-arounder it is useless. EDIT: Typos

I can see both sides of the coin on this one. You don't need any lvl/nex to 'use' a ring/pot, this makes sense. But a summon stone effectively allows you to perform the summon skill without the level or nexus to do that skill. A potion or ring does not allow you to craft or pot without putting in the xp and pp. True, you could say that you are using the summon as a tool to aid in your fighting, much as you would with a potion or ring that helps you by adding stats or burning mana. But once again, the stones allow you to perform another skill entirely. On the same note, I can see that non-summoners may not find them usefull if they have to invest pp or much time summoning to use the stones. What would be their motivation to use one if there were such requirements? Perhaps WildIce has a good idea that maybe putting a nexus requirement on the higher monster stones would be appropriate. I think this may be one of those situations where you are going to upset one set of people depending on if there are requirements or not. No requirements and the summoners feel that their time and effort is wasted because anyone can now summon. Add on some requirements and the non-summoners will feel like there is no benefit to buying the stones. Personally, I would be fine with an animal nexus of 1 or 2 requirement for anything above a fluff. You could look at it as, the stronger summons are harder to keep under your control and the animal nexus allows you to effectively control them. *shrug* Just a thought.

I understand that completely. I know full well that you don't summon for proft. I stopped summoning because I couldn't afford to do that and level manufacturing. But some others were commenting on stone prices and how they were thinking they would finally be able to make a profit from their summoning level. I guess that once again I wasn't clear in my meaning. What I was referring to by quoting that line and asking what was hard to understand, was that things were not set in stone. Adjustments were being considered and that possibly others would follow if there were other examples of why this wouldn't be good for summoners or the game as a whole. To just say "I'm pissed, and I don't like it this way" (not quoting anyone, just an example) doesn't give reason to change something. But to say "I have worked very hard for my levels and don't understand how this will benefit the game if anyone with a few gc can buy the stones and summon. Perhaps we should look at some level or nexus requirements for using the stones. This would then make summoning still a viable skill and people may need to sacrifice some pick points or level a bit to use the stones." (I think someone did suggest something similar) I'm not saying you don't have a right to be upset and frustrated. But I don't think it's conducive to getting things changed that may need to be changed to just state you are upset. No, I would not be happy if everyone could make Titanium Plates, but then again I am not happy about something else that is impacting the manufacturers but that is straying off topic so I won't go there. I do understand why that would make you feel like you worked so hard for nothing. All I was trying to suggest is to offer alternatives that would be acceptable to you, and possibly other top summoners, to help get it changed. As I told LadyReni in PM, I don't mean my suggestions to be offensive to summoners. I am simply trying to suggest that there are more constructive ways to get your point across to Ent and offer suggestions for possible adjustments. And as a side note: No, I can't fully appreciate all the ways that this may impact a summoner.

What part of this was so hard for some people to understand? I agree with you Terena. I once bitched about a change almost right after it happened and wasn't very clear in what I really was complaining about. Looking back I realized that bitching doesn't do anything but piss off Ent, who is just trying to do what he thinks is best for the game as a whole. His game. Not ours, his. Since then, if I don't agree with something then I try to give it a chance, do some testing with it and then form a constructive suggestion as to how it might work better from a players perspective. Just because something is implemented one way at first doesn't mean it won't ever change. Adjustments have been made after updates in the past. I can understand summoners frustration, but c'mon...without the formula for the stones how can you really say that just because an npc sells it you won't make any profit from it? Do like Atlantis did and come up with some numbers for Ent to look at and evaluate. Offer a constructive suggestion to a possible formula for the stones. As far as anyone being able to use them, well yeah I guess I can see why a summoner would not be happy with that, but why else would a non-summoner buy one? Offer suggestions on level or nexus requirements for them. Offer something constructive.

Bleedingsoul thought that 'the big machine' might be the manu temple in NC, and there just so happens to be a fallen tree right outside the door. I tried all around it, but nothing. My brain is fried from trying to figure this out. I thought that the big machine might be the play on words and actually be mushrooms...don't ask how I came up with that Anyways, I tried several spots around the big fallen tree with mushrooms on and near it in MM. Nothing at the spots I tried, however I did not try every spot around it. That's a big tree. Oh, in reguards to Chaoogie's idea, I think I went into that cave past the arctic chim. I'm not sure what island that is, but I tried in the center of the circle in that cave. EDIT: I also tried around the skull portal thing in both sides of the Nothingness cave

Thanks for such a good laugh at the beginning of my day.