Wynand

Maybe its you who doesn't get it and its ok no need to say sorry I let you off Look, there is some extremely basic logic involved and I'm going to explain it to you very carefully as you seem to need that. Let P be the set of all people going to pubs (or owning rostogols). Let B be the set of all people drinking beer (or using rostogols). Obviously the intersection of P and B is not empty (i.e. there are people who own and use rostogols.) My point in that example was that under that assumption you can't take an arbitrary element "Ted" from P and say Ted is not in B as well. That's why I wanted and still want to know if there are any. Talking about the empty set is rather fruitless (can be funny too though). Lol please dont misunderstand my sarcasm as me not knowing what you are on about, I 100% understood your point from post 1 and it is a valid point.. What I was trying to get across though was: "My point in that example was that under that assumption you can't take an arbitrary element "Ted" from P and say Ted is not in B as well." That is true and I have never denied that.. but any basic logic has to be viewed from both sides and hence you cannot assume that: All because "Ted" is in group P (owns a rost) he is automatically in group B (uses a rost) Which is what you seemed to be implying in your posts: ie: A stand alone Group P doesnt exist because people havent admitted to only being in Group P Group P & B 100% intersect but basic unflawed logic suggests that being in group P doesnt by default put you into group B and group P can be a stand alone group ( so in that regard I am right as well ) and yes the only way to be 100% sure that "there is any" is either: They grow a set and admit to it or Ent with his stats posts a list of everyone who owns over 5 rosts and how many they own.. (and since people have nothing to hide no one should mind) <<< thats a joke btw You obviously can't tell the difference between a question and a statement. This whole thing started off when I asked a question, let me repeat: a question and again ...... ... ... ... ..... dude.. just stfu. I can also run around and use weird example's to make my points and thereby confuse people so that they do not really understand what I am saying, and when/if they do understand, pretend like thats not what i said and then make like I meant something else so that they still do not understand what i mean, and then act like i won an arguement. This is a typical example of: 'If you cant beat them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit'

I thought about how i always loose all my important stuff when i die, then thought about how useless the carefull guy perk is, then i thought... why not make a careless guy neg perk? something like you have 90% chance to lose an item in inv, instead of 50%. I'd go for something like you get 5 pickpoints for it and have to pay 5kgc, but thats just what I think. Thoughts/idea's/flames are welcome. ^^

adding more 'intresting' spots in the map wont make much difference... it will only increase the time it takes to patrol the map untill you go camp at the entrance. The point of PK'ing is not to avoid stronger people and pick off the weaker people who try to run away from you so they can pick off even weaker people. The general aim is to kill all your enemies (those 'big-hitters' included), not play hide and seek with them. The reason the lack of trees makes fighting easier is that its easier to walk and fight between those tree, without having your view from above obstructed from your/enemy's healthbar, and also to see what weapon they are using (for example: to see if they are using bod/brod so u hav to change to red cape), and it generally makes chasing someone easier when you walk manually (IE not mapwalking) if there is less trees. You will notice that this is not a first person shooter game, and that the only way of fighting is by attacking someone and initiating combat (from which you have to flee/diss/kill/die to disengage), also if people want to get away they use teleport rings/spells. Also there is little use of hiding in a clump of bushes if you have some huge letters and numbers floating above your head to reveal your location. Korrode answered this already. Have you ever PK'd before? The terrain gives you no advantage at all, for a further answer to this, revert to the answer before the previous one. There is no use in using inferior weaponry if you will never win a fight with it... all that will happen is you keep losing, so you have to use the highest level equipment available to you. There is no practical purpose to this... there are events similar to this, but for all the roleplay they are still just a bunch of people fighting.. if there is no reason/reward to occupy a fort and turning it into a base (other than it looking like thats whats being done) there is no point... you should be able to gain something from it, or it should give you an advantage in doing so, but currently it makes no difference if im in a fort PK'ing sum1, or at the entrance PK'ing sum1. The people who PK did not create this game and they did not set up how the PK'ing system works... they can only work with what is given to them, and 'bitching' here in suggestions forum is the only way to make it better. I strongly suggest to anyone who is not familiar with the PK system as it currently is to not make very complicated suggestions, you have to understand the foundation of how something works, before you try building something on it.

Well i'm not sure if I spend 16kgc on every no drops, but I guess I atleast break 1-2 capes so its possible. But how many times to you get to fight/kill/die on NDD? vs just fighting a few times and dying once on normal day and then losing 16kgc, and after that the fun is all over and you go back to harving for a new rosto? You are right, PK'ing is not too active because people don't want to die, which is the aim of Player Killing maps, but if they lose 16k everytime you cannot blame them. Now i'm not complaining about rosto's since they do serve a good purpose, but there is something wrong with them in PK... It makes no sense to go into place where you can only lose, and gain nothing. Now everyone will say 'well if PK'ing without a rosto is so popular, why is TD so empty?' Well thats simple, since there are really high level players who run around with their dragon armour/thermal serps/cooling sabers, and the ordinary guy who is out there just looking for some fun cannot contend against them with their aug leather armour and titanium long... and the few people who do go inside with their expensive gear HAVE to diss/tele instead of dying, since losing 100k+ is no fun, so its still the same problem ... NOBODY want to die ,or come back after they died the first time (*hint* maybe a nexus cap in TD? *hint*). I know what ive said has been said countless times before, and that nothing I say makes a difference... it just makes me feel better to say it every now and then.

For a few years the titanium serpent sword was the strongest manu'able sword in game, so when you attacked some1 else's spawn (with malicious intent) it would be the best choice if you want to do the most damage. Since the titanium serpent sword is a bit long to type everytime its just called a 'serp' for short, and so its easier to say "xxx is serping my spawn" than "xxx is attacking my spawn with a titanium serpent sword". The word just stuck around. Most people use an OrcSlayer to 'serp' these days, maybe we should change 'serping' to 'ossing' lmao edit: gah.. started typing before popeye's last post and got interupted... now it looks like i'm trying to be a smartass

Male ingame/Male IRL. lol peino... you had me fooled aswell... i do admit that i figured u act a bit weird/sensitive at times, but i liked you all the same , now it makes alot more sense. lol you learn something new everyday

lmfao

Just a few idea's: 1 You should hold this event on a guild map, which should hav a guard bot, so as to keep out unwelcome visitors(I'm sure there are some guilds who would allow you to use their maps). 2 Make it a rule that you may use no items that require over 4 human nexus (so as to keep PK'ing cheap, with no need for a rosto), let the winner(s) of each fight keep the drops. 3 Let every1 who enters pay 500gc at the entrance (in order to pay for prizes). 4 Dont just limit it to normal 1vs1 fights, set up some random teams to fight each other, and also maybe let a group of weaker fighters gang a strong fighter. (another thing, do not set up predefined teams, as there us always some asshole that doesnt show up). 5 Hold this once a week (on the weekend), find some time that fits the most time-limits. 6 Ban diss rings, let people flee normally if they care more about their PK points than having fun. 7 You should have a few people on the management of such a project, 1 person cannot reliably do everything. Good luck with this, and count me in as a member.

People dont wait a long time in KF alot because its sorta foolish if you are alone (and only a mid lvl pk'er).. firstly because you cant keep magic immunity on all the time, which means you get cooldowned by a tiger, and probably mana-drained by a player before you put mag immunity on, and secondly because some1 can come inside invis, and then see you and call his friend, and together they PK (summon) you to death. Gotta love tigers.

And I can't post for other, who don't have a forum account and don't want to make one, because this will make them stop playing ? If they don't want to waste 5 minutes to make a forum account to speak for themselves and then quit because of it, then it really doesn't bother me.. let them quit.

lol zamirah you should be ashamed of yourself... you are 1 of the highest leveled fighters, and you could probably kill this creature in 2 hits with a pickaxe (it has 50's def and 50'ish health), while there are people that are 5x weaker than you that are for this idea.

Great idea, I love it. About the storages: I personally am not adverse to storage massacre's, but maybe you can add a fireplace to every storage in C2, so that people can keep a fire burning to ward off the leopard, and if they die, then they have no1 to blame except their own carelessness. edit: another thing, if u want to bother with some extra graphics, make it so that only its eyes (light reflected) are visible from a distance, or if its stalking just outside some light... I love that eerie feeling u get when you look into the bush around you and see those eyes staring at you.

lol stop lying... everytime u get ganged you diss/tele ... lately u diss/tele if you only see me approaching you while you are fighting some1 else. ICD is a crap perk for PK, 5 coord/instinct does not make up for -20 def, especially now that attributes are capped at 48.

As far as i know you still cannot beam from the PK maps (KF/TD/etc) but you can beam when you are in a partially PK map (Arena's/Thelinor/etc). Not sure though, scotty has been dead for quite awhile now.

My first PK kill, killed Bralex in TD... we were both 30's a/d with leather armour/steel long. Then, when me and Tempest mirrored the black dragon to death ( i was 90's a/d with 45 mag)...havnt tried again, although tempest probably killed 20+ dragons that way . And lastly, the first time i got 700k OA exp an hour on a normal day was a pretty good feeling too ( although it became rather boring after doing it 30-40 times )

I <3 this idea... i also think that if your name starts with 'Markus' and ends with 'Weck' you should automatically qualify for this special effect every hour \o/.

lol lets all donate 1kgc to the nuke that kills all the giants/dragon in idaloran invasion .

maybe its me , but the point of doing that would be ? To get rid of some rosto's(and gc i suppose).

Ditto

50k

Really fun invasion ,i agree with labrat, this one actually had a good story-line.

rofl

Stop lying plz, KTF was never called dD And i never let you join Wing Type #guild_info HIM

Good idea's , especially the second 1.

10k diamonds (or the most i can order) plz.